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    budget scope?

    ok before anyone says it... i know and agree that the more you spend on a scope the better ..... But ... i have a 0.270win for about 18 months now, payed 400 s/h the scope on it is a hawke 6.5-20x50 and while not really clear enough in low light was ok, it is now not holding zero, borrowing a scope of a friend confirmed this, just under 1" groups opend up to 6 - 8" and missing a 2ft target once! (at 100yrds) after chatting with other people on fb i decided a vortex viper sounded very good value for money and here is my problem, due to other comitments i cant afford one this year ( car has just died and house needs repairs ) so i'm thinking ( and feeling very uncertain about it) of getting a cheap scope to do for a while and when i can afford it get a vortex and put the cheap scope on my HMR which has a 3-9x50 hawke which is ok but i find bunny headshots over 130yrds hard ( maybe own eyesight to blame! ) so i'm thinking of something like nikko stirling nighteater or targetmaster, MTC viper or Barska euro30, budget will be about 200 (car first! ) what i'd like to know is has anyone used any of these scopes on centerfire rifles in low light conditions out to 3-400yrds and what do they think?

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    You might struggle a little at 3-400 yards in low light with any budget scope to be honest.

    But consider MTC range or Bushnell Legend for that kind of money. Have used both and found them pretty good value for money.

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    i realize its not going to be perfect, what did you have the MTC on? i know they are popular with air and rimfire but wondering how they perform on a centerfire? and howa package comes with nikkos' but i can't seem to find much user experience with them, the hawke which was on is clear out to a good distance in daylight but really loses the light at dusk or dawn even with the magnification turned down, the hawke on my hmr seems fine in low light but not so clear at longer distances

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    I paid 250 for a second hand S&B 8X56 though they've done up a little bit since then, but a 6X42 should be available at that sort of money.

    If you could save a little while longer you could buy a good 2nd hand S&B Hungarian (because they offer the best value second hand, you'll pay a little more for Swar/Zeiss or German made S&B for no advantage to you) in either 6X42 or 8X56 and have a really good scope, in fact probably an ideal scope for stalking, at money just beyond what you want to pay. As a longer term spend it really makes sense as if you want to sell it on you will get what you paid for it, so over its life it will cost you nothing. You don't get more budget than that!!
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    I would suggest that you are better off keeping an eye on the optics section of the classifieds here and buying a better quality 2nd hand scope when it comes up. I have bought two cracking scopes through the site in great condition for many hundreds of pounds less than I would have paid for new. If you can come down a bit on the magnification as well that would help as x20 requires very good optics in order to deliver results in low light. You could also improve your stalking skills and get closer to the bunnies! I do think that you are asking a lot for 200 I am afraid.

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    There's a 7x50 meopta in the sales section for under 200 then you won't need to replace it for awhile longer and have a good scope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caorach View Post
    I paid 250 for a second hand S&B 8X56 though they've done up a little bit since then, but a 6X42 should be available at that sort of money.

    If you could save a little while longer you could buy a good 2nd hand S&B Hungarian (because they offer the best value second hand, you'll pay a little more for Swar/Zeiss or German made S&B for no advantage to you) in either 6X42 or 8X56 and have a really good scope, in fact probably an ideal scope for stalking, at money just beyond what you want to pay. As a longer term spend it really makes sense as if you want to sell it on you will get what you paid for it, so over its life it will cost you nothing. You don't get more budget than that!!
    I fully agree with all of that. 2nd hand S&B 8*56 Hungarian, 350. Great scope, no hassle and it makes me wonder why they're so cheap. OK, there's no ballistic turret, but for purely stalking at what I would class as reasonable distances (300m as an absolute maximum) then the turret makes no real difference.

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    A quality 6x42 is hard to beat for 95% of hunting.

    Bushnell Legend 4-12x40 with Side Parallax and duplex or ballistic reticle is really nice. I just helped a young fellow select his first new rifle, a Tikka T3 in .308 with one of these.

    The Burris Fullfield II in 3-9x40 has slightly sharper glass and more light transmission, because it is simpler and less expensive. Lifetime warranty. The Fullfield E1 has a different reticle, with windage, and it is etched, for a about $50 more.

    Swift Premier 3-9x40 or 4-12x40 AO are nice scopes, also with lifetime warranty. Schott glass, made in the USA.

    Vortex Diamondback is right in there, too, 3-9x40 and 4-12x40.
    Last edited by Southern; 06-03-2015 at 17:31.

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    i only had x20 mag cos thats what was on the rifle, i normaly use between 8 and 14 mag, i use the 270 for longer range foxes on open ground or mountains (hmr for ground where i can get closer) and deer stalking, i would be happy with 12 or 16 mag with mildot reticule, not bothered about ballistic turrets, i had a bushnell 3-9x40 before and found it too poor at dusk so i would prefer 50 or 56 objective though i am wondering if a 44 objective would do the job, price of burris i would get the vortex which start about 370 for the models i'm interested in, what i would like to know for now is has anyone experience with the scopes i mention? i know they are going to have limitations compared to ones mention by you all, has any use a vortex crossfire out of interest. deer stalking in ireland is different, a land owner can give as many stalkers permision as he likes and there is a lot of lamping as well so deer tend to be very jumpy and live in rougher land, the season is 6 months and just finished, i didnt get a single shot, most of the time all you can see is head or neck and the slightes hint of danger they run, even a car slowing down makes them run, thnearest i gut to a mature buck was 100yrd, he just kept moving steadily but all i could see was his head.... and there were houses 500yrd beyond. a experienced and successful friend has a night force wich goes up to 24 mag and he finds he does use all the magnification particuly as the season progresses

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    Nikko Stirling night eater, 150-200 quid brand new,( depending on spec, lense size etc,) not a bad scope and great under the lamp,I've got one on the 308.

    it does the job, I would love a Z6I Swarovski though!!!

    atb

    kjf

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