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    Reloading newbe

    Hi all, Hoping to start a small bit of reloading in my semi retirement. This will be just a small amount and just for fun when i move to the new forest.Can any body tell me how to word my variation please. Thanks john.

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    SD Regular Greener Jim's Avatar
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    In what way?

    If you mean your ammunition allowance it goes as follows.
    1- You can never have more built rounds than your allowance states whether expanding or not (obviously)
    2- You can have as many non-expanding bullets (in any caliber) that you wish, you just can't breech rule #1
    3- An expanding bullet counts as a loaded round. Therefore you can only procure as many bullets as your license allows cartridges.
    4- You can only buy expanding bullets in the calibers you have permission to use on live quarry.
    5- Expanding bullets are entered on you FAC (by the RFD) just like loaded ammunition. This only applies to expanding bullets bought within the UK. If you import expanding bullets from abroad you do not need to enter anything on your FAC but again can't breech rule #1. You can also get them delivered to your door, it does not need to go through an RFD.

    Once you have built your rounds, you do not enter anything on your FAC. As always, so long as you don't breech rule #1 you're good

    Nothing on you FAC need change just because you are reloading. You could start tomorrow and not tell the police as it makes no difference to them so long as you don't break rule #1 (be it in bullets or loaded rounds).

    Welcome to reloading, I started recently but already love it!
    Hope that helps,
    Last edited by Greener Jim; 29-03-2015 at 22:37. Reason: Adding additional info

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    Thanks Jim .thats just what I was looking for, all the best. John

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    SD Regular Greener Jim's Avatar
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    You're welcome mate. What you gonna be reloading for?

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    A little list of what you need may be helpful as I am just getting the bits together to start loading myself and would find it useful.

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    Here is a short piece I wrote for another website

    Reloading – what do you need?.
    If you are thinking about starting reloading, here are a few ideas. I’m not going to name many product names but, more or less, make a list of essentials. I assume you have the requisite brass, bullets, primers and powders. It's just a list of the very basic kit so as to keep costs to a minimum. Beware, however, there is an infinity of apparently “essential” gear out there, all “vital” to the reloading process but, at the very least, detrimental to your bank account!.
    -Firstly, get one or more reloading manuals and read thoroughly(see Reading List). You will then have a better sense of the kit needed and the way things work in this game. The ‘net is also excellent for info.
    -Secondly, and most importantly, get an experienced reloader to show you the ropes. A mentor in this business is worth his weight in gold.

    A word of warning before we start – Remember you are dealing with pressures of 50,000 psi or more, so caution should be your watchword.

    - Press – you’ll need one of those, of course. The type of press you need depends upon the cartridges you will be loading and a press capable of handling up to 30-06 length will suffice for most of the usual cartridges. Generally speaking, a single stage press may provide better control of the reloading process for a new reloader. If you decide to load for cartridges of Magnum length(eg 375 H&H), then your press will need to be larger and, consequently, more costly.
    I cannot give an answer as to the best makes and models, just get the best you can afford, preferably of steel and cast iron. Such a press should last for many years with a little TLC. Oil or grease the pivots and the ram occasionally, keep the press free of dust and anything else that might cause wear. With the addition of the appropriate dies, you will be able to carry out all the necessary steps in the reloading process ie, depriming, sizing, priming and bullet seating.
    - Dies. All the well known makers dies will, with a modicum of care, produce good ammunition. Dies usually come with the appropriate shellholders. Buy full length resizing dies to start. Neck sizing and other techniques can come later. To cut down on any possibility of wear in your dies make sure that your cases are clean before putting on the lube and resizing. I always wipe my cases and the interior of my dies with kitchen towel before starting. Occasionally cleaning your dies with your favourite bore cleaner is a good idea, too.
    - Balance. A beam balance is probably as good as anything and reasonably priced. There are cheap electronic balances on the market but for cost-effectiveness the beam balance is probably best. Never leave your beam balance assembled, always lift the knife edges off the agates so as not wear them out. Agate is very hard, I know, but will wear in time and can make your balance inaccurate and/or inconsistent. Put the balance away in it’s box to keep out dust and anything else which may damage it. Treated with care it will give good service for many, many years.
    - Loading block. Most reloading companies do them and they are not expensive. You could make your own, of course, plywood or hardwood looks very nice. I made a number from ” mahogony faced ply.
    - Powder funnel. The usual plastic powder funnels are not expensive and serve their purpose very well. If you get powder granules sticking to the insides due to static, a wipe with one of those antistatic tumbledrier cloths will sort it out.
    - Powder scoop. A small teaspoon(preferably stainless) is as good as anything for putting powder into the balance pan.
    - Powder container. Small containers to contain sufficient powder for your loading session. I’ve used small plastic drinks beakers for many years.
    - Calipers. A most important piece of kit. You’ll need a caliper to check the length of your resized cases as well as the final length of the completed round. If your budget allows, a dial caliper of best quality, but there are a number of electronic models around 30 or less which will probably be just as good, although you do have to buy batteries. Don’t forget to remove the battery if not using the caliper for some time.
    - Case trimmer or trim die. Trim or file dies are available to get all your cases to the same length but you’ll need one for every cartridge and it is probably cheaper in the end to get a case trimmer(like a small lathe, turned by hand). I’ve had my Lyman trimmer for many years.
    -Case neck chamfer tool. This cleans up any burrs on the inside and outside of the mouth of the case after trimming or resizing. You’ll also use it to put a small chamfer on the inside of the case mouth to ensure smooth seating of the bullet. Lyman sell a good one.
    - Primer pocket cleaners (large and/or small rifle). You can glue them into little wooden dowel handles for convenience
    - Primer seating. This operation is usually taken care of by your press and will prove more than satisfactory to start – indeed, you may never feel the need to use any other method. If your budget will stretch to it, get a Lee Autoprime.
    - Sizing Lube. I’ve used Imperial Wax for many years and never get stuck cases. Forget about the Lee Lube(lanolin based), I binned mine years ago after getting too many cases stuck in dies.
    - Hard nylon bore brush. Use this to clean the inside of the case neck prior to resizing and another candidate for a small dowel handle. It is important to ensure, as far as possible that the inside of the neck is clean in order to help get consistent neck tension, one of the prerequisites of accuracy.
    - Bristle brush or Cotton Buds. To put a very, very small amount of lube inside the case neck prior to sizing and after cleaning with the above hard nylon brush. Alternatively, you can use graphite.
    - Paper kitchen towels or good quality duster to clean off the lube after resizing both from the exterior of the case and the inside of the neck – unless you intend cleaning some other way.
    - Tumbler? I don’t own one and do not clean my cases other than by removing the lube by wiping with a cloth and cleaning the primer pockets. I do, however, run all cases through an ultrasonic bath about every five loadings, although perhaps it may not be really necessary. You don’t really need an ultrasonic or a tumbler if your budget is tight. I suppose that you could pop your cases in the washing machine inside some sort of bag - don't let "Management" catch you, though!.
    - Bullet pullers. Just as a writer has a rubber to erase errors, a bullet puller erases reloading mistakes. I recommend the collet type. It’s like a reloading die and goes in the press and with it you can unload ammo easily. I have found that those inertia hammer things are too slow, messy and inconvenient.

    There are many other bits and pieces which are supposed to help to make more accurate ammo, but my advice is to concentrate on producing good safe ammunition, finessing can come along as you gain experience and expertise.

    - A place to reload. This can be a problem and depends on your circumstances, house layout etc. One of the essentials is a sturdy reloading bench on which to mount your press. Now, I suspect that “Management” would object to holes in the dining room table so you’ll have to find a solution that suits your circumstances. One answer is a folding Workmate type bench. Your press can be bolted to a sturdy lump of wood and clamped in the bench “jaws”. The bench can be folded up after use and the press and its attached timber put away.
    Don’t load in a room where there is a lot of traffic as the draughts will upset your balance. Find a nice quiet corner where you won’t be disturbed and draught free. Avoid distractions like TV or radio, you will need all your concentration, especially at the beginning. A bedroom/boxroom or the kitchen if disturbance can be kept to a minimum..
    - Safety. I advise the use of safety glasses, particularly when priming. Although, by and large, the process of reloading is quite safe, you are dealing with powders which are flammable and primers which are quite sensitive to shock or static. Keep primers in their packaging (usually little trays), take only as many as you need at a time and make sure that those bits of kit which come in contact with them are wiped clean to ensure they do not have dust on the surfaces. Those tumbledrier antistatic cloths are good for this.

    -For those addicted to the weed – need I remind you not to smoke whilst reloading?.

    - Reading list
    The ABC's of Reloading (I strongly advise starting with this one.)
    Metallic Cartridge Reloading
    Modern Reloading by Richard Lee
    Manufacturers Manuals:
    Speer Manual
    Lyman Metallic Reloading Handbook
    Hornady Reloading Handbook
    Sierra Manual

    I hope this may prove useful

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    Hi Jim, it will be 308/243/223,for hunting/and a bit of fun at bisley but mostly so i can sit in my man cave!!!! atb john

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSW View Post
    but mostly so i can sit in my man cave!!!! atb john
    Hi John,

    That at is something I totally relate too

    I'm not that far from the New Forest. So if when your down here and need any help, advice or the loan of any gear, please just ask if I help in any way.(Been hand loading for 20+ years)


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    Thanks Steve, every body has been very helpful and I will look forward to meeting up with you all in the hants/Dorset area ,I can't wait to move down. All the best john

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