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Thread: "sea" bass have got more protection

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    "sea" bass have got more protection

    Hi all,

    I know that several of you are into fishing when your not stalking , myself i am into lure fishing especially for bass and have been for several years and in that time i have seen a big decline in numbers around our estuary and coast.

    It may be a small step and some will say misguided but i say anything is better than nothing.

    I will openly admit that i take , kill and eat several each year and i still dont mind these restrictions.

    hopefully this link will work
    http://www.henry-gilbey.com/blog/rec...rtality-really

    Mark

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    I also fully agree with this new ruling. I think its about time, I also think minimum size should be put up to 40cm and that comercial fisherman should be much more restricted on bass.

    I love fishing for bass, although i do my fishing with a speargun... Without self control you could quite easily take double figures of these fish in a session and i know many a spearo that do shoot to excess. The only problem I can see here is that its not really an enforcable law. Many people will have the self control to allow them to do what is right by the fish, but many will still ignore the new rulings and do whatever they like.

    But like you say, every little helps...

    cheers

    KS

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    I have caught and released upwards of 60 school Bass in a session at Westwood Ho! got to be honest and say I've never bothered to take one for the pot as they are rarely legal length,
    I have seen people trying to net them with a long net (along with the mullet that hang out in the surf close in) but haven't actually seen any caught as the sneaky buggers jump the net
    I have also some years ago seen a couple of trawlers (allegedly Spanish) pair netting across the Estuary, I would have thought that would have more effect on Bass levels than recreational fishing?
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    I have practised catch and release for years taking the odd fish for the table , whilst I think the new rules are a step in the right direction there needs to be much more controls on the commercial fisherman as far as I know there are no quotas there's lots of inshore netter taking a lot of fish much more than the rod and line guys .
    who is going to enforce these laws and how ?.

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    I too spear fish and could take many more than actually sensible, IMO the main issues from recent experiences and conversation certainly pertain to the private 'fast fisher' owner and his mates, who can in many instances get the ground quicker than the licensed fisherman and either live bait the daylights out of the spot or net and long line all day releasing nothing, I have seen this practice with my own eyes.

    However the opinion of an old boy I know who just sold his license because of this very reason said he thought that we were better off taking the Bass under 4lb and releasing everything else as the life cycle and breeding was misunderstood and this species had suffered through poor scientific observation, this caused a dip in the breeding stocks that may not be regenerated for the next 7-11 years by which time more damage will have been done unless farmed bass is promoted....I am not a fan of farmed fish for a variety of biological & environmental reasons but I was not really sure about his comments..

    any views or more accurate info on this?

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    I too fish for Bass with fly and lure but as much as I love too eat them rarely keep 1 for the pot.

    As per rick6point5's comments, an old fisherman told me years ago that the bigger fish are the breeding machines and that it is better to let them go, for that reason, right or wrong, I only ever keep a just legal fish.

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    What can I say...I was a gill netter in the solway for 2 years...did every tide no matter the weather or time...caught thousands of bass and in total 27 different species of fish. Local fishermen (rod and line) used to come down and see my catch to see if it was worth them fishing....best day 670...worst 2 weeks 720 dogfish and wrapped up nets....this was my sole form of income at the time and I don't regret it.

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    I fully agree with taking measures to protect bass, recreational anglers are more and more releasing most of their fish and I'd be happy with taking a maximum of one per day, I took one last season! I also think the size limit should be increased so that the fish spawn at least once before they become legal. I also think that there should be a maximum size as there's no reason to keep double figure fish.

    One thing I don't believe is that recreational anglers are responsible for 25% of the bass taken however that's fairly irrelevant at the moment.
    Last edited by paul k; 01-04-2015 at 18:24.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul k View Post
    I fully agree with taking measures to protect bass, recreational anglers are more and more releasing most of their fish and I'd be happy with taking a maximum of one per day, I took one last season! I also think the size limit should be increased so that the fish spawn at least once before they become legal. I also think that there should be a maximum size as there's no reason to keep double figure fish.

    One thing I don't believe is that recreational anglers are responsible for 25% of the bass taken however that's fairly irrelevant at the moment.
    I agree with all of what you're saying except for the not keeping double figure fish, if you're happy to keep a 9lb fish whats the difference to an 11 looking at it in a subjective way?

    Personally i like to shoot around the 3lb mark, although i may treat myself to a larger specimen once a season or so

    KS
    Stealthy, like a giraffe on roller-skates....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kernow_Stalker View Post
    I agree with all of what you're saying except for the not keeping double figure fish, if you're happy to keep a 9lb fish whats the difference to an 11 looking at it in a subjective way?

    Personally i like to shoot around the 3lb mark, although i may treat myself to a larger specimen once a season or so

    KS
    No, you're quite right, I used the expression "double figure" to indicate the bigger fish, personally I'd not keep a 9lber either and would only keep a fish in something like the 3 to 5lb range and not that many of them.

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