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    Shogun or Discovery?

    With apologies to the original poster, from another forum, I post the below, um, post.

    I met two Highways Agency Traffic Wombles taking a break in the sunshine in Saltash today. I thought I'd say hello and ask how their Disco 4's stand up to daily use use for them. They were really friendly and happy to talk. What they told me, surprised me.

    It turns out that they are supplied with either Disco's or Shoguns, both on a 3 year lease and dealer maintained. The Discos are basic cars, while the Shoguns come with leather and heated seats etc etc. They have to source from two different companies, in case all cars have to be withdrawn from service at the same time for a safety recall and (apparently) they can't "show favour" (?)

    Each car works either 2 or 3 shifts a day and the mileage after 3 years? 250-330,000 miles

    So which is best as far as they are concerned? He said that amongst the users, it's split around 5%:95% in favour of the Disco! Why?:

    1. The Disco is much more reliable in service than the Shogun!! Apparently, the Disco's go from service to service with very few issues, only brake discs and pads being considered consumables. He's not aware of a single gearbox, engine or suspension failure. The Shoguns, on the other hand, are regularly in for failures. He said that the electrical system caught fire in a 2 week old one recently though, to be fair, he said that they add a lot of electrical equipment - but no problems with the Disco's wiring.

    2. The spare parts are often at the LR dealer, or available on a next day basis. He said that the Mitsubishi's are often off the road waiting for parts from Japan.

    3. The Disco tow's better. He said that they often have to tow cars out of mangled crash barriers, but they had also used them to move 44 tonne trucks! Apparently, as long as the brakes aren't stuck on (!), then LR are okay about this

    4. They don't like driving the Shoguns, or even being in them. There's less space and despite the posh leather trim and the gadgets, they say they "are like driving tractors" after the Discos (apparently, it's the 3.2 litre engine that they use in the Shogun).


    He said that the only reason they go back after 3 years is that that's the length of the lease as they were "just getting nice" at that mileage! They had been working hard with LR to lease a new fleet of 40, but LR are "working flat out for export" and couldn't give a decent delivery time. However, they've still placed the order with LR and are prepared to wait.

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    i work for a landrover supplier and believe me if you want a landy in under 6/9 months buy it in america or china and ship it back.they got first call on all of em.9 months for a evoque is average.they work 7 days a week and sell like hot cakes ,what recession

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    Shogun
    Shogun
    Shogun
    Shogun
    Shogun
    Shogun
    Shogun
    Shogun
    Shogun

    I cannot make it any clearer

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    RA... The point you make very clear is that you know hee haw about automobiles!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rake Aboot View Post
    Shogun
    Shogun
    Shogun
    Shogun
    Shogun
    Shogun
    Shogun
    Shogun
    Shogun

    I cannot make it any clearer
    There's nothing like a reasoned argument...

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    A completely unattributable report sourced on the Internet of how great one car is compared to another.

    Must be true then.

    .....reproduced from a site dedicated to the Disco 3: DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - Highways Agency Traffic Womble's Disco 4....

    Obviously a fair, unbiased, independent opinion was always going to be found there then.

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    Funnily enough here's another post from later in the same thread - presumably from another Disco owner, remember:

    We were parked at the services nr Birmingham a couple of years ago and got talking to a group of wombles. Their view was the discovery was the nicest vehicle to be in all day with more presence on the road than the shoguns. But the discovery reliability was dire with gearboxes and transfer boxes popping all over the place they were in some doubt the ha would keep on buying them especially since the shotgun was a third cheaper.


    So which one of these two posts do you think provides an accurate, factual, reliable status report of the Discovery as a working tool for the HA? Neither? Both??

    See how ridiculous it is to use the Internet as a source of opinion? You will get as many opinions as there are posters. Little of it is reliable or verifiable.
    Last edited by willie_gunn; 18-04-2015 at 05:24.
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    Quote Originally Posted by willie_gunn View Post
    Funnily enough here's another post from later in the same thread - presumably from another Disco owner, remember:



    So which one of these two posts do you think provides an accurate, factual, reliable status report of the Discovery as a working tool for the HA? Neither? Both??

    See how ridiculous it is to use the Internet as a source of opinion? You will get as many opinions as there are posters. Little of it is reliable or verifiable.

    Spot on w_g




    Steve.

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    The simple answer is you can go and buy a shogun NOW, pay the money and drive it away. There's a waiting list for most things LR due to the rest of the world wanting them.
    So, the rest of the world's got it wrong have they ???

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    to the tune of about 800 vehicles a week ,someone likes em .we ramp up soon for the next reg ,7 days a week maximum volume .they cant all be friday afternoon dogs can they

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