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    Explain for an Outsider - election outcome

    So, I see the Tories spanked everyone - what will now change? Cameron stays on, but what about the rest? Less EU friendly? More Pro-Military, Stalking/wildlife, etc...?

    I also saw SNP is likely now in charge of Scotland, what will change there?

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    Same as all other elections, nothing really changes except we always end up paying more tax and working longer for worse public services and lower pensions. SNP, now that's a change indeed!

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    Same sh!t different day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cootmeurer View Post
    I also saw SNP is likely now in charge of Scotland, what will change there?
    Possibly a further referendum on leaving the union in 2 years as distinct from this being a “generation” away.

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    Last edited by Klenchblaize; 08-05-2015 at 20:42.

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    Cameron promised a vote on Hunting repeal.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2130martin View Post
    Cameron promised a vote on Hunting repeal.........
    Which I doubt will happen - the numbers still don't make it likely that repeal would get through.

    As to the other implications of the result?
    • A period of navel-gazing for the Labour party. With the disappearance of their base in Scotland they have a decision to make on whether they continue to move to the left "a la Milliband", and enter a period in opposition not unlike that enjoyed by Michael Foot, or swing back to the right and become indistinguishable from the Tories. Their focus, almost to the exclusion of everything else, on "saving the NHS" and their inability to face up to their share of the blame for the mess the economy left them as a one-trick pony. I see Ed Balls has now gone......
    • The Tories had a good night, but face a number of difficult challenges in the 5 years ahead - UK constitution, Europe, continued austerity, etc.
    • The Liberal Democrats are now out in the wilderness, and it is questionable whether they can recover. They have lost the next generation of their party's leadership
    • The SNP were the night's winners, but they may face a reality check in the forthcoming Holyrood elections as their record in power comes under more scrutiny. It will be interesting to see how they vote when it comes to "English votes for English laws". They have won 5% of the vote, but have 11% of the seats in the UK parliament.
    • UKIP appear to be a busted flush......
    • The Greens have done well


    In general I'd expect a resurgence in discussions around boundary changes, proportional representation, constitutional changes, etc. and lot's of horse-bargaining to get laws passed through Parliament. Expect to see further devolution to Scotland and Wales as "payment".

    In reality little will change.
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    Possible glimmer of hope here for some sort of PR?
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    Quote Originally Posted by finnbear270 View Post
    Possible glimmer of hope here for some sort of PR?
    I didn't think this was a good idea until fairly recently but I have to say that this election, more than any other I've seen,beautifully demonstrates the potential benefits of PR & the downside of the existing format. It's just fairer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2130martin View Post
    Cameron promised a vote on Hunting repeal.........
    I hope not, the presence of anti-hunting MP's even in the Conservatives will doom such a vote to failure. Wouldn't it be more useful to amend the Act to remove the 2 dogs restriction, that would be better progress. One of the unexpected benefits of the Act is to make it easier to prosecute poachers & people illegally lamping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McKenzie View Post
    I didn't think this was a good idea until fairly recently but I have to say that this election, more than any other I've seen,beautifully demonstrates the potential benefits of PR & the downside of the existing format. It's just fairer.
    68% voted against PR/AV in the referendum in 2011, so I don't see there will be a rush to hold another one - at least not until after those over Europe, Scottish Independence, etc.
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