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    Firearms Licensing Reform

    Right, the election is out of the way.
    What can the collective 'we' as firearms certificate holders do proactively to get the dog eared, inefficient licensing system up to scratch?

    I hate being a victim and that whole mindset yet I'm starting to feel like one trying to get a simple variation through Thames Valley at the moment. Even an actual completion date would be a help in terms of planning.
    So where should we write, and what should we say to ensure things change for the better??

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    Surprised at that. Thames valley have allways been super efficient when i have dealt with them, My last variation was a couple of months ago and was back inside a week. Hope yours comes through soon.
    Trevor

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    Personally I want handguns back. Not gonna happen since Cameron ain't gonna overturn Blair's amendment.

    We never band together as a society. We have over 800,000 people shooting in the UK and we generate over 1.5 billion pounds a year to the economy but when it comes time to fight for something the shotgun owners say "oh that doesn't affect me" and the target shooters don't care about the stalkers and the stalkers don't stand up for clay pigeon shooting etc

    No wonder they walk all over us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TH4 View Post
    Surprised at that. Thames valley have allways been super efficient when i have dealt with them, My last variation was a couple of months ago and was back inside a week. Hope yours comes through soon.
    Trevor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Si View Post
    I'm convinced it depends on how you are with them.
    Not sure how much scope there is in a written variation to be one thing or another with them??
    Should I have put a tip in the envelope or a dab of aftershave on the seal??

    Wiltshire used to be superb.

    All the ladies I've spoken to have been incredibly helpful and patient but can't say anything other than 'yes, we've received it and it will be processed in due course'.

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    A good time to quote the variously-attributed exasperated rhetorical question:
    Reform? Reform? Aren't things bad enough already?

    Particularly appropriate here, since there are hardly any changes to firearms law since 1909 that have not increased costs, inconvenience and restrictions on lawful shooting-folk.

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    Firearms licensing legislation will not be high on the agenda. So unless some pressing need arises in society to rush to legislating something, then I expect not much will change.

    One thing that could benefit everyone is a general overhaul in the various laws concerning firearms. Make things clearer (like whether it's legal to shoot over highways) or to modernise (like removing the need to have moderators on certificates).

    But as for efficiency in firearms licensing departments, where they obviously differ between excellent and abysmal, I should not hold your breath. In the course of this government, police finances will continue to be squeezed quite vigorously. So the likelihood is that less resources, not more will be allocated to licensing departments. Sad but true!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalua View Post
    A good time to quote the variously-attributed exasperated rhetorical question:
    Reform? Reform? Aren't things bad enough already?

    Particularly appropriate here, since there are hardly any changes to firearms law since 1909 that have not increased costs, inconvenience and restrictions on lawful shooting-folk.
    Why is it called 'common sense', when it's actually so rare? Here,Here sir!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greener Jim View Post

    We never band together as a society. We have over 800,000 people shooting in the UK and we generate over 1.5 billion pounds a year to the economy but when it comes time to fight for something the shotgun owners say "oh that doesn't affect me" and the target shooters don't care about the stalkers and the stalkers don't stand up for clay pigeon shooting etc

    No wonder they walk all over us.
    IMHO, that is the truth of our situation?

    And will surely, eventually, bring about the demise of Gun ownership here?

    Sure the System isn't perfect but if it was?

    Imagine the chaos that could result?

    Imagine the efficiency G4S could inject?

    Just a few random thoughts.
    Last edited by old man; 08-05-2015 at 19:58.

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