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    Advocate Treatment

    Just wanted to share my observations and a few chats I've had with my dog training guru.....

    This time round on the wheel of fortune, our vet has been pushing the Advocate 'back of the neck' treatment for the new pup - duly I gave it a go.

    Maybe 1-2 days later I could noticeably see a change in pups temperament - he was v. much more aggressive toward the family and JP when out. When I spoke to my trainer he was not surprised and reeled off a number of clients with all types of dogs who'd reported the same thing - apparently there is plenty of anecdotal evidence on the net about this (I've not checked).

    What I would say though - we have dropped this treatment and gone back to the old faithful, Frontline - pup is calmer and not affected in any way.

    This is not meant to be controversial - rather, a pointer (no pun intended) for anyone who may have seen a deterioration in behaviour every four months or so and is incidentally using this particular product - I will also add said product did what it said on the tin, obviously.

    Hope this helps
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    I am sorry to hear that your pup has been affected for the worst. Always a worry sticking strong, long lasting chemicals on them. Has your vet suggest you washed it off with a shampoo?

    I used Advocate on my two little springers last year when the Frontline plus did not seem to be working any more. It cleared their fleas immediately.

    Fortunately for me neither seemed to be affected by it personality wise.

    Last winter when they were getting wet every day I bought a course of the new Merial product Nexgard which is in a soft chewable tablet form. They seemed to get on with that as well fortunately. No sign of change, no sign of fleas and the only ticks I have found in the six months since January…maybe a couple of dozen…have all been small and dead. With Frontline and Advocate I was finding two or three a week on each of them and frequently they were hugely engorged and always still wriggling.

    Alan

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    I have used advocate for a long time, on several different breeds, and never had a problem at all. It is very good stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hereford View Post
    Just wanted to share my observations and a few chats I've had with my dog training guru.....

    This time round on the wheel of fortune, our vet has been pushing the Advocate 'back of the neck' treatment for the new pup - duly I gave it a go.

    Maybe 1-2 days later I could noticeably see a change in pups temperament - he was v. much more aggressive toward the family and JP when out. When I spoke to my trainer he was not surprised and reeled off a number of clients with all types of dogs who'd reported the same thing - apparently there is plenty of anecdotal evidence on the net about this (I've not checked).

    What I would say though - we have dropped this treatment and gone back to the old faithful, Frontline - pup is calmer and not affected in any way.

    This is not meant to be controversial - rather, a pointer (no pun intended) for anyone who may have seen a deterioration in behaviour every four months or so and is incidentally using this particular product - I will also add said product did what it said on the tin, obviously.

    Hope this helps
    Sorry to hear of your problems with the pup,

    I have used Advocate on all 8 of my dogs with no side effects,

    we we only like you only changed from frountline on the vets recommendation as it didn't seem to work so well on all parasites.

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    I do full time pest control there is a lot of resistance to fipronil round me. Sorry to hear about your pup I would look into other flea treatments in case you need them in the future

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alantoo View Post
    I am sorry to hear that your pup has been affected for the worst. Always a worry sticking strong, long lasting chemicals on them. Has your vet suggest you washed it off with a shampoo?

    I used Advocate on my two little springers last year when the Frontline plus did not seem to be working any more. It cleared their fleas immediately.

    Fortunately for me neither seemed to be affected by it personality wise.

    Last winter when they were getting wet every day I bought a course of the new Merial product Nexgard which is in a soft chewable tablet form. They seemed to get on with that as well fortunately. No sign of change, no sign of fleas and the only ticks I have found in the six months since January…maybe a couple of dozen…have all been small and dead. With Frontline and Advocate I was finding two or three a week on each of them and frequently they were hugely engorged and always still wriggling.

    Alan
    Thanks Alan - agreed about the chemicals - he's been a different dog since then and changing onto wet (raw) food.

    I am concerned that Frontline doesn't offer the kind of resistance it used to - I will investigate the Nexguard you mention - sounds like a good alternative.

    Like I said, the Advocate does work - I'm wondering if I was reading too much into the behaviour change seeing as all posts indicate no issues!
    For Gods sake - don't tell her how much I've spent

    Ctrl-Alt FACT

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    Is it possible the diet change had a bigger effect than you appreciated & the Advocate was just coincidental?
    A Man should be wise, but never too wise. He who does not know his fate in advance is free of care

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hereford View Post
    he's been a different dog since then and changing onto wet (raw) food.
    Most people would say that raw meat makes for more aggression. Russian special forces used to be fed raw meat for that reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTO View Post
    raw meat makes for more aggression. Russian special forces used to be fed raw meat for that reason
    Utter nonsense!

    They were painted with Advocate
    A Man should be wise, but never too wise. He who does not know his fate in advance is free of care

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    Nexguard is the best I have used , found maybe 15 -20 ticks on my WHV after the weekends stalking trip all dead on the skin
    Last edited by arron; 17-06-2015 at 14:34.

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