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    Re Hunting license

    Funny how wherever you go in the world the local authorities are hot about hunting license sales yet in the UK we got rid them years ago.
    Just another tax or does it really go to help the animals like with the US
    Pittman–Robertson Act,?
    Martin

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    And some people think it would be a good idea to make people buy a license for sea angling, saying that c£2M would be available, out of £24M collected, to be spent on conservation. Sea anglers already pay c£70 in VAT every year. What does that get spent on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTO View Post
    And some people think it would be a good idea to make people buy a license for sea angling, saying that c£2M would be available, out of £24M collected, to be spent on conservation. Sea anglers already pay c£70 in VAT every year. What does that get spent on?
    I echo your thaughts JTO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bavarianbrit View Post
    Funny how wherever you go in the world the local authorities are hot about hunting license sales yet in the UK we got rid them years ago.
    Just another tax or does it really go to help the animals like with the US
    Pittman–Robertson Act,?
    Martin
    In the US, most State wildlife programs would cease to exist without the hunting license fees. Likewise State parks and availability of public hunting lands. In the UK you really don't need licenses, and if you had them, they would definitely be a tax. After all, the percentage of public hunting lands to privately held lands must be very small. In my State I pay $37 for a license to hunt upland game, Antelope, and take two deer - the seasons stretching from September to December, and I have millions of acres to hunt on for that fee: 30 million to be exact. It costs me just $1.23 US to hunt for three and a half months, per million acres of land. Add to that the fact that coyotes, rabbits, prairiedogs, etc. are considered vermin and require no license. Free and unlimited shooting year round. All in all, that's a bargain.

    Nope. I have never complained about license fees.~Muir

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bavarianbrit View Post
    Funny how wherever you go in the world the local authorities are hot about hunting license sales yet in the UK we got rid them years ago.
    Just another tax or does it really go to help the animals like with the US
    Pittman–Robertson Act,?
    Martin
    Martin I assume that you are talking about the old game license that you purchased in the post office which was something from another era and not really a hunting license.

    I don't know when the license to take game was introduced but initially wasn't it introduced as a measure to control poaching and to tax the poor man out of shooting? With time and inflation in the end it was costing more to collect and issue these licenses than the revenue received.
    If I remember correctly while it still existed there was no need to have a game license for deer stalking on enclosed land.
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    It seems to be a cash cow in many countries.
    In the US as Muir says, for state residents it represents a great deal (I was in New Mexico for 2 years) but if you come in to hunt from another state then the price hike is usually large.
    Seems to be a tit for tat measure between the states as the price can differ depending which state you come from and what they charge their non residents.
    Really my post was biased more to all the eastern European and asian lands.
    Martin

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    Remember that here in UK there is no "xxxxx" of taxes. I forget the word, hence the "xxxxx", but what it means is that taxes collected from one source are not allowed to be ring fenced just to be used for the benefit of the citizens or businesses that provide that source of revenue.

    So vehicle excise duty has never been ring fenced to only be allowed to be spent for the benefit (road users) of the citizens that provide that source of revenue. Would that it were. We'd have the finest roads in the wlorld if we did.

    I pay enough in VAT on what I buy for shooting. How much of that does shooting see back? Heck! Maybe all VAT on shooting purchases should be used to give us FREE FACs and SGCs? The money I pay in VAT on a new (or used) gun is certainly more than the £ 20 cost of a variation to be allowed to buy it!

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    There might not be tickets or licences to shoot animals in the UK, which provide income to the government, in effect the land owners.

    But in the UK, there are things called "stalking fees" or "syndicate fees" which provide that income to the land owner. Different place, different methods, that's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enfieldspares View Post
    Remember that here in UK there is no "xxxxx" of taxes. I forget the word, hence the "xxxxx", but what it means is that taxes collected from one source are not allowed to be ring fenced just to be used for the benefit of the citizens or businesses that provide that source of revenue.
    Hypothecation, where all or part of the taxes raised are used for a specific purpose rather than going into a pot called "general taxation"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro View Post
    There might not be tickets or licences to shoot animals in the UK, which provide income to the government, in effect the land owners.

    But in the UK, there are things called "stalking fees" or "syndicate fees" which provide that income to the land owner. Different place, different methods, that's all.
    In general those fees provide income to whomever holds the stalking rights - which may or may not be the land owner.

    In a perfect world a hunting license would fund either the appropriate government department or wildlife conservation in general. That way there is a direct correlation between hunting and conservation, such as the State wildlife programs Muir refers to above and as seen in some other parts of Europe.

    Personally I'd be happier spending my funds this way than on subscriptions to the various fieldsport organisations.
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