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Thread: Training and mentoring 250 per outing!

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    Training and mentoring 250 per outing!

    I just read an email sent to me by the BDS, I clicked on this link BDS Training and Mentoring Scheme
    If i have read this correctly it will cost the member (client?) 250 to go an accompanied stalk and receive training and mentoring, one outing, morning or evening.
    Now can you tell me what separates this from an outing with an experienced stalking guide?
    I think the people who came up with that price are out of touch with things in the stalking world.

    As an example of other offers, Malc posted Fallow culling for 75 and no shot fee on does, a great deal.


    Cheers

    Richard

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    Yeah, I saw that and thought there must be a lot of rich folks needing training. Which is probably true but not very helpful for most people.

    Too much money in this game. But then again, isn't there always?

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    Looking at the application form it is actually two outings for 250:

    For a fee of 250.00 a participant will have two outings with a professional BDS training instructor who will guide them through all aspects of stalking and dealing with a carcass after the shot. Participants will be shown how to carry out specific procedures which they will be encouraged to attempt themselves. For those without their own rifles, one may be borrowed from the instructor under the terms of the section 16 Firearms (amendment) Act 1988.
    The cost does not include accommodation, meals or travelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh6 View Post
    Looking at the application form it is actually two outings for 250:
    You are correct, but on the link it said 'morning or evening' so they made a mistake, thanks for clarifying that.

    For a fee of 250.00 a participant will have an evening or morning outing with a professional BDS training instructor who will guide them through all aspects of stalking and dealing with a carcass after the shot. Participants will be shown how to deal with specific procedures which they will be encouraged to attempt themselves. For those without their own rifles, one may be borrowed from the instructor under the terms of the section 16 Firearms (amendment) Act 1988.

    Cheers
    Richard

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    You're right, the first page on the BDS website says "an evening or morning outing", if you're tempted enough to part with huge amounts of cash and go for it, you click through to the Ts & Cs to find you actually get two outings.

    Personally, I didn't get that far. I made a sort of funny noise through my nose at the first page and shut the browser.

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    If its 2 outings for 250 then I dont think its too much. If you are given every chance to get a beast or two or more and have a instructor on a 1 to 1 basis and the use of a vehicle, trained dog, atv, perhaps rifle and ammo. The two outs might, added together any where up to 8 or ten hours. Nothing much is cheap these days. For example, to watch a game of rugby for 80 minutes or so was 120, no training nothing else supplied

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    I have not seen this advertised by BDS, but it comes as no surprise as there is a big demand for stalking these days and many need the experience and Level 1 to satisfy their local constabulary before they get an FAC.

    250 is a good sum of money, but it its for two outings and no kill fees, plus a mans time for the remaining part of the day that's not a bad deal.
    All grades of deer stalkers/hunters in the UK and overseas catered for. Level 2 DMQ signing off available. Over 30 years experience in the stalking/hunting industry. For friendly and professional help go to www.UKOutfitters.co.uk

    ZEISS PRO STALKER.

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    It makes my training look cheap! ... As said it is 2 outings which I think is more reasonable. Apart from the points made by rem284 I think the BDS want to earn something from it as well as paying the guide! Everything is more expensive closer to London!
    Deer Stalking. Training and Courses. Deer Stalking Certificate Level 1, Training and Witnessing for the Level 2 Assessment.
    www.deercentral.co.uk

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    Why not wait for feedback before slating the BDS once again? They're not making anyone pay anything and if it's deer rich land it might be a fantastic deal? When you take the cost of a skilled man's time for one to one tuition plus all the other add ons, I can't see how it's anything other than very cheap myself. Would you prefer that they run the service at a loss? They are a charity after all!

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    On that basis the SD week on my lease in Scotland with accommodation, linen, ATV, trained dog to hand and guides to help extract and guide, and NO kill fees on hinds at 875 from Sunday to Saturday morning is giving it away!!

    But you would be surprised at how some think its too expensive. Sometimes I think those that are recreational stalkers must believe that full time professionals who have overheads and a business to run do it for fresh air and a laugh!!

    Stalking is a business and like all other businesses you have bills to pay. If you are lucky to have 500 or so acres at no cost and free to cull what you like thank yourself lucky. Its a bit different when you have large leases, staff, equipment, accommodation, insurance, vehicles, etc to pay for.

    Not moaning just pointing out the facts, which many seem to over look.
    All grades of deer stalkers/hunters in the UK and overseas catered for. Level 2 DMQ signing off available. Over 30 years experience in the stalking/hunting industry. For friendly and professional help go to www.UKOutfitters.co.uk

    ZEISS PRO STALKER.

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