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    .17 hornet or .22 hornet

    hi boys,, could do with some info here. thinking about buying 1 of the above. but which 1. it will be used for range work and hunting. which would be better for me . i will be reloading. fired a 22 hornet but as yet haven't had a go at a 17 hornet. been told that ammo availability in this country might be a problem for the 17. and out to what range do you shoot the .17.
    thanks boys .

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    I can only speak as a .17 hornet owner but am a fan. Fast, flat and plenty of sting on varmints. Great for corvids and bunnies right out to 300 metres but a little marginal for foxes with the 20gr bullets but perfectly capable of dropping Charlie with a well placed shot and if limited to sensible range. The 25gr Berger hollow points are a better choice for foxes if you are reloading.

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    I'd go with the .22, easy to load for, better range of projectiles, easy to find components.
    Had mine for a good few years now and it continues to be the rifle I reach for above the others in the safe.

    Neil.

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    I too have used both and would go for the 22 version every time. There's nothing wrong with the 17Hornet but it's quite hard to see where it fits in. As Penyard said it's flat shooting and is good for small vermin but certainly not ideal for foxes whereas the 22 version will deal with foxes out two a couple of hundred yards. A 17 HMR or 22 will deal with rabbits perfectly well.
    As far as reloading is concerned, I reload for the 22 but would imagine loading for the smaller version would be difficult as there is so little powder involved any slight variation would affect accuracy.

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    never fired the 17 hornet and ive only owned the .22 hornet for a short time but i must admit i like it, its very simple to reload for and ive got mine shoting groups around the size of a 5p at 100yrds, tho this said if you can shoot a .17 hornet out to 300yrds i think that will excell what the .22 can do but i must admidt 300 yrds seems a long way to throw a very small bullet. so far ive taken foxes out to 140yrds with my hornet and to be fair thats about as far as i would like to push it for now. the only reason i personaly would look at a .17 hornet over the .22 would be if i wasnt going to use it for foxes

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    Quote Originally Posted by macandels View Post
    hi boys,, could do with some info here. thinking about buying 1 of the above. but which 1. it will be used for range work and hunting. which would be better for me . i will be reloading. fired a 22 hornet but as yet haven't had a go at a 17 hornet. been told that ammo availability in this country might be a problem for the 17. and out to what range do you shoot the .17.
    thanks boys .
    I don’t get many opportunities to shoot weird emergent calibres, but a kindly soul offered me the try of a (right-handed) moderated CZ527 American in .17 Hornet reloaded with 25gr Hornady V-Max & HP.

    It was bewitching to fire … no recoil … just a ‘phuttt’ sound like a .22rf sub-sonic. Even after reorganising the bench around to left plane to suit me it gave impressive bug-hole groups. These were a little high from me, which we agreed was due to different eyes.

    This is IMO the best reincarnation of the .22 Hornet (5.6x35R Vierling) case which has been around since 1930. The parent calibre is difficult to reload, and has been outclassed and overtaken by the .222/.223 cartridges but still hangs on in a niche of it’s own. There are lots of classic rifles for it too.

    I would pull the trigger on a fox if armed with a standard .22 Hornet in SP, but am not sure about the .17 Hornet loaded with V-Max.

    I’ve read all the hype, but a 25gr bullet is too light to maintain momentum much beyond 200yds. The .17Ho. and .22Ho. are matched if pushed to 200yds, but the .17Ho. is so much flatter over the distance, and safer on the ricochet aspect. My feeling is that it’s the ideal tool for long range bunny-bashing, but isn’t up to much else.

    http://www.hornady.com/store/17-Hornet-25-gr-HP-Custom/

    http://www.hornady.com/store/22-Hornet-35-gr-V-MAX/

    http://www.hornady.com/store/22-Hornet-45-gr-SP/
    If I'm going to be accused of it then it's just as well I did it.

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    Its a no contest as a varmint round.

    The 17 cal shoots far flatter moves less in the wind and hits with more energy.
    And As stated has NO perceivable recoil and a much reduced risk of ricochets over the slower 22 H

    At 200 yrds (from a 100 yrds zero)
    22 Hornet drops 5.8" and is blown off target by 7" in a meagre 5 MPH cross wind

    The 17 Hornet - drops only 2" and drifts 2.8" in comparison. Massively better performance.

    Interestingly, the impact energy also favours the 17 cal The 17 cal delivers 290 FPE compared to the 22 Hornets - 196 FPE

    Truth is , although the 22 Hornet still has a place and does a job... it is totally outclassed and outgunned by everything around it. It is a historic calibre that has a place in some shooters affection - others have their rose tinted specs firmly on and will refute any facts given.

    However being objective and looking at the facts , the 17 H is by a country mile , the better vermin calibre and I would defy anybody to show otherwise

    ATB
    Alan
    Last edited by sir-slots-alot; 14-11-2015 at 15:48.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinistral View Post
    I don’t get many opportunities to shoot weird emergent calibres, but a kindly soul offered me the try of a (right-handed) moderated CZ527 American in .17 Hornet reloaded with 25gr Hornady V-Max & HP.

    It was bewitching to fire … no recoil … just a ‘phuttt’ sound like a .22rf sub-sonic. Even after reorganising the bench around to left plane to suit me it gave impressive bug-hole groups. These were a little high from me, which we agreed was due to different eyes.


    This is IMO the best reincarnation of the .22 Hornet (5.6x35R Vierling) case which has been around since 1930. The parent calibre is difficult to reload, and has been outclassed and overtaken by the .222/.223 cartridges but still hangs on in a niche of it’s own. There are lots of classic rifles for it too.

    I would pull the trigger on a fox if armed with a standard .22 Hornet in SP, but am not sure about the .17 Hornet loaded with V-Max.

    I’ve read all the hype, but a 25gr bullet is too light to maintain momentum much beyond 200yds. The .17Ho. and .22Ho. are matched if pushed to 200yds, but the .17Ho. is so much flatter over the distance, and safer on the ricochet aspect. My feeling is that it’s the ideal tool for long range bunny-bashing, but isn’t up to much else.

    http://www.hornady.com/store/17-Hornet-25-gr-HP-Custom/

    http://www.hornady.com/store/22-Hornet-35-gr-V-MAX/

    http://www.hornady.com/store/22-Hornet-45-gr-SP/


    how can something going over 3000 fps go phuttt like a 22lr ?what mod are you using? my cz 17 hornet seems to shoot around .5 moa 5 shot groups but i'm working on it.it sure is a pleasure to shoot mind.

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    I haven't heard anybody talk about the 22 K hornet on here. The K hornet is an improved hornet, just rechamber a hornet, fire form your cases from standard hornets, and you have an extra 200 fps

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    im still 50/50 on which to get, but very interesting to hear your thoughts. still not sure if I can get the ammo for the 17 here in north wales. some shops seem a bit empty on supplies.
    Last edited by macandels; 15-11-2015 at 15:48.

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