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    The shepherds' advice to the sheep

    So, this Government, and the posturing, preening Home Secretary (a "pound shop" pastiche of Margaret Thatcher's pretensions and prejudices) has had the National Crime Agency give advice in response to terrorist attack.

    "Run", "hide", "lock the door behind you" (presumably "tough luck" on anyone trapped the other side of the door with the terrorists) and "don't lie down".

    Yet the whole thread of this advice is just that. Passive, moribund, supine. The Conservatives boat they are the Party of Winston Churchill. By this advice they have also remonded us that they are the Party of Neville Chamberlain.

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    The advice given is stupid, there is an intellectual deficit everywhere in Gov. Possibly caused by too many responses without due consideration. However the SAS gets a major boost in funding and numbers.
    More guns on the streets in the hands of competent marksmen is the answer IMHO, for the next few months to a year.. The video of the cafe shooting in Paris - one man with a gun and it would have been over, simply because they dont expect armed 'civilians'.

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    A generation ago, the PLO attacked schools in Israel, until all the teachers started being armed. Then they sought softer targets. Now the the Muslim Brotherhood and its allied groups attack tourists and schools elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kes View Post
    More guns on the streets in the hands of competent marksmen is the answer IMHO, for the next few months to a year.. The video of the cafe shooting in Paris - one man with a gun and it would have been over, simply because they dont expect armed 'civilians'.
    Do you honestly believe that's the answer?

    In America, where there is a far higher level of gun ownership, yet it seems we read continuously about about mass shootings. With all those guns in circulation you would think that mass shootings would be a rarity, yet it seems not.

    How many marksmen do you think it would need to be able to cope with every possible terrorist act, or to be in every possible cafe? 1,000? 10,000?? 100,000?? The chances of one of these competent marksmen being in the right place at the right time is infinitesimally small.
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    You read propaganda about "mass shootings" in America, as part of a campaign to make honest citizens in the USA, Canada, Australia, the UK and Europe believe that they are in danger from law-abiding gun ownership.

    Most of these "mass shootings" in the USA are gang gunfights, when you look deeper into the cases, and over half of them are in large cities run by liberal Democrats, where handguns are almost outlawed - Chicago, New York, Detroit, Washington DC, San Francisco.

    But Switzerland and other countries with higher levels of firearms ownership than the USA, have less crime. Why? Look at the democraphics of the criminals. They are from cultures lacking in the moral restraints of Western Civilization, permitted to run wild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willie_gunn View Post
    Do you honestly believe that's the answer?

    In America, where there is a far higher level of gun ownership, yet it seems we read continuously about about mass shootings. With all those guns in circulation you would think that mass shootings would be a rarity, yet it seems not.

    How many marksmen do you think it would need to be able to cope with every possible terrorist act, or to be in every possible cafe? 1,000? 10,000?? 100,000?? The chances of one of these competent marksmen being in the right place at the right time is infinitesimally small.
    America has a mental health problem, not a "gun" problem. There is no money in looking after mainly teenagers with mental health issues, so they are ignored until they go "postal".

    Decent people need to have the right and the wherewithal to defend themselves, either from against jihadi scum running amok in European cities, or from theiving scum running riot in rural Britain or Ireland.

    The police cannot be everywhere to defend the populace, and seem to be particularly ineffective in catching the scum after the event.

    Its up to ourselves....an armed society is a polite society. Switzerland anyone?
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    In the early days of psychotropic "wonder drugs" the liberals defunded the mental institutions and outpatient centers, in order to "mainstream" the mentally ill.

    Well, of course they did not continue to show up for any minimal counseling or exams, nor take their medication.

    Add to that the liberal legislation in the name of "privacy" and "non-stigmatizing" which stopped the reporting of violent psychotics to the police and courts, so these people did not show up on the background checks, if they even bought a firearm, instead of stealing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claret_Dabbler View Post
    America has a mental health problem, not a "gun" problem.
    I might beg to differ: People are getting shot by toddlers on a weekly basis this year - The Washington Post

    Or perhaps: Mass Shootings in 2015 - Mass Shooting Tracker

    It would be interesting to know what proportion of the 8,454 homicide victims in 2013 killed in the US with a firearm were killed by an offender with previous mental health problems: FBI Expanded Homicide Data
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    Quote Originally Posted by willie_gunn View Post
    I might beg to differ: People are getting shot by toddlers on a weekly basis this year - The Washington Post

    Or perhaps: Mass Shootings in 2015 - Mass Shooting Tracker

    It would be interesting to know what proportion of the 8,454 homicide victims in 2013 killed in the US with a firearm were killed by an offender with previous mental health problems: FBI Expanded Homicide Data
    Do the Swiss murder each other in high numbers?
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