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    what would you have done?

    so I'm in the shooting line and my neighbour is a well known low bird taker , I see a partridge coming towards me too low to shoot and I glance over to my neighbour only to see him track it through me and the line then shoot at it behind ! I obviously hit the deck and decided I would speak to him after the drive about it , until he did it again! I unloaded , walked up to him and told him in no uncertain terms with a raised voice and the finger that if he did it again I would punch him straight in the mouth! went back to my peg and carried on.

    I told the shoot captain afterwards and said exactly what had happened and as far as I was concerned the matter was over.

    was I wrong ? I think not and take no chances with safety?

    whats your thoughts gents?
    Right where's those stones , I'll start !

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    I wouldn't have given him the second chance! No excuse for dangerous shooting.

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    Shoot captain should ban him for a number of shoots

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essex stalker View Post
    Shoot captain should ban him for a number of shoots

    Permanent ban, you are a long time dead.
    (The Unspeakable In Pursuit Of The Uneatable.) " If I can help, I will help!." Former S.A.C.S. member!

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    You have the patience of a saint !! He may have had the wrong end of a gun butt across his face if he had done that to me. To have to dive on the floor is way, way out of order.
    As said above, long time dead .................... and he still walks about.

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    You did exactly the right thing. Safety is something we all have a responsibility for. If you had ignored him then perhaps he would have done the same on another drive with tragic results, if not for you then for someone else. Personally I'd find it very difficult to live with the thought of "if only I'd said something".

    I would be interested to know how the shoot captain handles this. From personal experience on the rare occasions when I have seen unsafe behaviour I have seen guns banned from a shoot - perhaps for the rest of the day for a "first offender", but permanently for those who are "repeat offenders" and either don't learn or don't care to learn.

    I also been on shoots where the shoot captain, as part of the briefing, specifically asks for any examples of unsafe behaviour to be reported directly. I think this is a good idea, as it makes it clear to all members on the shoot (guns, beaters, pickers-up) that unsafe behaviour will not be tolerated and that brushing things under the carpet because "that gun has always had that reputation" is not an excuse.

    Having said the above, over the years I have also become aware that sometimes one person's low bird is another person's challenging shot. For those who are new to the sport or who perhaps have little experience of game shooting, and who do not have the benefit of learning from a relative or from an experienced gun, it can be a minefield understanding what is, and is not, acceptable. Swinging through the line, however, cannot be classified as anything other than downright dangerous.
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    this is only my third season with this shoot but I've found out that this guy has form for this kind of behaviour !

    by low willie I mean 2-3 yards above my head , and this is an elderly guy who's been shooting a while.
    Right where's those stones , I'll start !

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    I once looked down the barrels of a neighbouring gun and walked over to him and asked to see his gun then removed the forend and handed it to our shoot captain and he kept it for the rest of the day.
    The gun was a guest that day and was also a full time Armed Response copper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tackb View Post
    this is only my third season with this shoot but I've found out that this guy has form for this kind of behaviour !

    by low willie I mean 2-3 yards above my head , and this is an elderly guy who's been shooting a while.
    It is always a worry when hearing that someone already has a reputation as being unsafe, as that implies things have been ignored in the past. I know that we sometimes look for mitigation, and we may not want to hurt the feelings of someone who has perhaps been a stalwart of the shoot and is now in their twilight years.

    There are times, however, when it's better to say a word and prevent a tragedy than to keep quiet and witness one.
    O wad some Power the giftie gie us to see oursels as ithers see us!

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    I think they have tried all the hints and making light of his behaviour to no avail , he is just too ignorant to get the hint !

    he understands now !

    I do not tolerate unsafe behaviour , as has been said , your a long time dead !
    Right where's those stones , I'll start !

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