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    .308 or 30-06?

    I'm thinking of moving to the dark side and getting a straight pull but also taking the opportunity to consolidate from my current two rifles (.243 and .270) to a single calibre. My obvious choices are .308 or .30-06 and, without starting one of the usual calibre debates, I'd like opinion on the relative merits of each.

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    30-06 is long action handles 170+ grains -220 grain heads also shoots flatter

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    You could cover the .243 with relatively mild loads of light bullets in the .270 Win. Neither the .308 nor .30-06 is as good for that.

    I think you need to tell more about how you use your .243 and .270 - the quarry or targets, the ranges, the type of hunting, rifles you have now, mods, scopes - to give folks more of a hint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern View Post
    You could cover the .243 with relatively mild loads of light bullets in the .270 Win. Neither the .308 nor .30-06 is as good for that.

    I think you need to tell more about how you use your .243 and .270 - the quarry or targets, the ranges, the type of hunting, rifles you have now, mods, scopes - to give folks more of a hint.
    Fair point, I mostly do woodland stalking for a range of quarry from reds/boar at the top end to roe/muntjac at the other end. I currently mostly use my .243 for everything up to fallow and the .270 for reds, boar and sika although I've shot big red stags with the .243. Ranges are usually inside 150 yards but occasionally out to 200 yards. I don't stalk on the open hill so long flat shooting is not essential. I've looked at ballistic charts and there doesn't seem to be a lot of difference between the .308 and .30-06 so it may come down to availability of ammo in different loads.

    I use a T8 mod on the .270 but couldn't bring myself to cut the nice looking Steyr Mannlicher .243 so that is shot without a mod, the new rifle would have a mod.
    Last edited by paul k; 03-12-2015 at 20:41.

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    30-06 with a rws dk 10,7g/165gr will do the job
    but...
    nothing wrong with your 270 loaded right? or don't you just like the rifle you have
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    The 308 was the 30-06 re-designed for modern powders. The reduced case capacity was due to not needing to stuff the case full of cordite rods. Yes you can load up the 30-06 case with more powder and push the projectile faster, however I don't think it's necessary in the UK.

    On summary ....... 308

    Actually on second thoughts 7mm08
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    If you decide to open the world to your sexual preference, the magazine in the 243 is the same as the magazine for the 308. So you only need to change the barrel, and if you have something to raise the cheek you don't need to slide the bolt off change mag and put it all back together.

    i think the 270 mag and the 30.06 are the same.

    So go for one of those combinations.

    of course I have a 243 and a 30.06 . But I do love the 243.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul k View Post
    ...I've looked at ballistic charts and there doesn't seem to be a lot of difference between the .308 and .30-06 so it may come down to availability of ammo in different loads.

    I use a T8 mod on the .270 but couldn't bring myself to cut the nice looking Steyr Mannlicher .243 so that is shot without a mod, the new rifle would have a mod.
    On paper, 100 fps difference between .308 and .30-06 - in the real world, between a .308 with short barrel and .30-06 with long barrel, there is a lot of difference.

    If you are going to chop the barrel to 20 inches, go .308. But then you are back to the same as your .270 Win is now. Same thing if you buy a 7mm-08 with a 20-inch barrel.

    It sounds like you really like the fine old .243 Steyr Mannlicher. Do you really want to sell it?
    How about an answer to what you did not ask? Keep the .243. Keep the .270. Spend way less money on a nice conventional bolt action like a CZ 550, Tikka Battue, or Sako in 9.3x62.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul k View Post
    I've looked at ballistic charts and there doesn't seem to be a lot of difference between the .308 and .30-06 so it may come down to availability of ammo in different loads.
    That's your answer right there.
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    What bullets are you likely to favour and want to use?

    Up to 165 grain or thereabouts 308
    Above 30 06

    I have a 308 and have used from 130 to 165 grains and don't see the need for anything else. I had a 243 but sold it as I favoured the 308 and so it was dead money!

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