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    Any sea fishermen on here

    Hi guys been doing a bit of boat fishing for cod and bass off of Norfolk, uptiding for cod and drifting with sand eels for bass I now want my own rod, can one rod do both or do I need 2? Either way what would you lot recommend looked on eBay and now completely confused on makes and weights don't mind secondhand if anyone's selling but don't want to buy crap or the wrong stuff
    Cheers Jake

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    had a Leeda 2xl rod for years ,cheap as chips multi tasking rod and not could spend an arm and a legg on Penn but Leeda works and doesnt brake the bank.Also have a Firestick boat rod for about 15 years now again cheap,strong and durable atb
    she buys shoes i buy ,shooting,she stops buying shoes,il be amazed

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    Yes, you can do everything from surf to small tuna with a quality open faced spinning reel and a fiberglass rod with a graphite core. A longer spool, like on a Penn will let you cast 100 yards with practice, but a shorter spool, like on a Shimano Baitrunner, will cast pretty far, though it is more of a boat reel. An inexpensive rod for these reels would be a Shakespeare Ugly Stik of about 7 feet, one piece. The tip is soft enough to not spook a fish which is gently picking up your bait. The Baitrunner and the Penn with the same feature, have been around a long time and are very strongly built. The dual drag system lets you play and control live bait like a conventional baitcasting reel, then switch gears to the front drag for fighting the fish, so it is good for fishing around structure, in deep water, etc. They hold a lot of line and have the drag systems to whip a big fish. You can buy some dedicated rod later, like an 8 foot surf caster, if you find yourself doing something more than another.

    If you just want to wet your feet but not planning enough fishing to warrant an investment in top tackle, buy a large Okuma copy of the Baitrunner, and a smaller, similar reel and rod for inland fishing, and to become skilled at the casting and feel of the rod and reel.

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    +2 for the okuma ,me n the missus both use okuma reels,as Southern says theyre a great copy of the Penn and at only 30 quid well worth the money.up and downtide ideal boat reels atb and tight lines
    she buys shoes i buy ,shooting,she stops buying shoes,il be amazed

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    Great bunch o lads and forum same as here good


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    You won't go wrong with anything from Diawa, Shimano or Shakespeare - personally in that order. Look at the Diawa Sea Hunter range, quality, quality rods for under 50. Personally I would get both a boat rod ( 6 - 7 ft, 12-20lb class would do almost everything) and an uptider, combined with shimano, Abu or Diawa reels. It becomes addictive, I have no idea how many I have, but ask the wife and it is too many!!

    A forum worth a look for secondhand gear and advice is World Sea Fishing (WSF) - sea anglers are no where near as forthcoming with help and advice as deer stalkers, but you will still find helpful people.

    One word of advice, the more you do spend first time on gear that will be used in the harshest of environments, the longer it will last. Cheap stuff will literally last sessions, good stuff seasons.

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    Shakespeare invented and perfected the fiberglass rods, pole vaulting poles, high-voltage breaker poles, etc. Their reels are not in the higher end like some Daiwa and Shimano are. You want a saltwater reel, with sealed bearings, etc. In the Shimano, that starts with the Stradic in an all-purpose inshore reel, and the Baitrunner, more a strong boat reel. As karlbird says, hese reels will last decades if you take care of them.

    In saltwater, Daiwa shines in long spool, shallow spinning reels for long surfcasting.

    I bought my daughter a Penn Battle last year, a relatively new reel which seems very good. She fishes inshore mostly in harbors, creeks and rivers, catching red drum up to 20 lbs and sea trout up to 6 and 8. Too early to tell about its longevity. My Penn Liveliner is 11 years old and has caught fish up to 90 lbs on 30-lb Power Pro braid.

    Unless you know equipment, don't risk a used reel. But old Penn are good, because they can be repaired and there are many who can do it, as they were used by so many guides and charter boats.

    My $40 Okuma in a 4000 frame size does a fine job in the surf and estuaries for me, and I use in for landlocked striped bass. Last trip out, fishing live herring in water from 130 to 60 feet deep, I caught five bass of 12 to 15 lbs each with ease.

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    Quick one - and more relevant to the UK market, here Shimano Baitrunners have been taken over by carp anglers (which is where my main interest lies) and most are not saltwater proof. The ones that are are the D EU models, with gold spools and any of the Big Baitrunners are too I believe. Your bog standard 6000, 8000, 10000 RE, GT, GTE and XTE are not going to last very long - and I have learnt the hard way.

    Penn do not have the follwoing or stockists here that they have in the UK and the ones I have used (Penn Captiva) are nicknamed Craptiva for a very good reason, I was on my second one thinking the first must have been a bad egg before I realised this.

    And back to your original posts - if you are fishing off boats, for all but specialist uptiding and jigging you are most likely to want a multiplier, the best one on the market secondhand (and I am a big fan of buying decent (that is the key) secondhand gear) is probably Shimano TLD - something like a TLD10 or 15, or a Diawa SLOSH 20, ABU 7000 or similar. All can be picked up on ebay for less than 70.

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    ABU bait casting and down line reels like the 7000 are great, and been around a long time. Like the older Penns, pros use them, and there are parts and repair shops. Casting this type of reel takes a bit more learning, and if you are, I recommend the C4 Abus, which have more and different bearings than the C3. Also, all their models ending in "1" are left handed handle. So a 4001C4 is a smoother left hand retrieve model.

    Penn Captiva was a short-lived venture into a lower priced product. Penn seems to have replaced it with the Battle. All the Baitrunners I have ever seen were saltwater, because of where I live and who buys them - everyone I know is very happy with their Shimanos, as am I ( Sahara 2500 for freshwater ).

    My Okuma is a CDS 50 bait feeder on a Shakespeare Intercoastal one-piece rod, rated 8-17 lb, spooled with 14-lb Berkeley Big Game line. It is a perfect rig for dragging sand eels along the bottom for flounder.

    Good site showing all the rods and reels sorted by saltwater, and type of fishing. You can compare the differences.
    Fishing Reel, Saltwater Fishing Reel, Penn Fishing Reel, Shimano Fishing Reel - TackleDirect
    Last edited by Southern; 11-12-2015 at 18:45. Reason: Okuma details, links

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    Well after all this found a rod called an ugly stik 7 and a bit long 12 to 20 lb test and been given 2 Shakespeare reels both used and loaded with braid, does braid go off like old mono used too thanks for your advice so far

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