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    May be posted elsewhere

    Big cats could be reintroduced into the wilds of Britain by the end of 2016 - with lynx roaming free for the first time in 1,300 years.
    The Lynx Trust is seeking permission to run a five-year trial after identifying suitable forests in Northumberland, Norfolk, Cumbria, Aberdeenshire and Argyll & Bute.
    Two of the sites would be the new homes of three male and three female lynx, and experts believe the project could bring considerable benefits for the UK's economy and ecology.
    Dr Paul O'Donoghue, who is involved in the trial, believes lynx could potentially save rural communities by generating tens of millions of pounds in revenue through eco-tourism.
    He explained: "They promote forest regeneration. In the UK, forests are dying. There's no regeneration of younger trees coming through because of the massive overpopulation of deer.
    "Lynx will help to both control and move deer around, which will promote forest regeneration."
    Currently, lynx are wild in certain parts of Europe such as Germany, but remain in captivity here.
    The Lynx Trust says the animals pose no danger to humans - but to counter safety concerns, it says all animals will be fitted with a GPS collar.
    However, the lynx effect doesn't sit well with everyone. Farmers argue that having lynx roaming free presents a risk to livestock.
    Andrew Bauer, of the National Farmers' Union in Scotland, told Sky News: "Our main concern is losses of sheep and lamb.
    "In Norway, where they have more trees, they lose tens of thousands of sheep and lamb every year to lynx and wolves.
    "We may not have the same level of forest cover in the UK at the moment but, certainly in Scotland, we're planting a lot more trees and we're going to see a lot more sheep and lamb in amongst forestry."
    A nationwide consultation ended last month, and the Lynx Trust hopes to gain a licence by the end of 2016.
    Natural England and Scottish Natural Heritage are the bodies which will decide whether the trial should go ahead.
    Similar projects have been conducted in the past. In 2009, beavers were re-introduced into Argyll and Tayside.

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    Well they can say good bye to the wildcat in the Scottish areas then.
    I don't fancy the wildcat's chances if a lynx happens on one and as the apex predator, the lynx will take out all those below it and any ground nesting birds they happen upon.

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    Another box for a few people to tick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyEddie View Post
    Well they can say good bye to the wildcat in the Scottish areas then.
    I don't fancy the wildcat's chances if a lynx happens on one and as the apex predator, the lynx will take out all those below it and any ground nesting birds they happen upon.
    That's certainly a given?

    History shows with introductions.........this will not end well?

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    Speaking to my friends in Finland regarding Lynx they are surprised by any introduction.

    The Lynx and Wolf population has exploded in Finland, in particular in the north. This has resulted in a huge drop in game, in particular Roe which in some areas have been wiped out. Once the Lynx have finished in one area they move on, or at least that's what I have been told, to the next area and the same thing happens.
    You can hunt Lynx under licence in Finland for a short period of time, in fact the season is open at the moment. However these permits are like Hens teeth and very few are given out compared to the Lynx numbers.

    Lynx in the UK belong in the past, not in a country of 65+ million people. Finland has an overall population of less than 6 million.

    Sheep farmers will no doubt be concerned as will other livestock farmers. I think we can do with out Lynx.
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    The first time a human is attacked the enviroloons will not apologise ,they,l blame the poor farmer or rambler for daring to be in the same area as the Lynx .These animals are extinct for a reason ,mm let me think yes they will attack you and yours.Of course the animal lovers at N,E will avoid any licences to control these in much the same way as they let Buzzards eat your poults and Badgers eat your poultry .This should be in the receipe section as its a receipe for disaster
    she buys shoes i buy ,shooting,she stops buying shoes,il be amazed

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    Quote Originally Posted by tozzybum View Post
    Of course the animal lovers at N,E will avoid any licences to control these in much the same way as they let Buzzards eat your poults and Badgers eat your poultry .
    And cormorants eat/kill your fish.

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    For those with a desire to read all about it

    Lynx UK Trust; national stakeholder consultation on a trial reintroduction of lynx to Scotland and England

    Tuesday, Jan 5th 2016 12AM

    Lynx caught in back garden

    Animal handlers spent six hours capturing a wild lynx as it stalked suburban gardens following earlier fears that the creature was a leopard on the loose, it emerged today.A team of handlers from London Zoo, who were called to an address in Cricklewood, north London, were shocked to find a European lynx - a powerful, agile creature about 2ft tall at the shoulders - "sitting passively underneath a bush".
    The lynx was discovered at around 11am on Friday in the garden of session musician Alan Newman and his wife Charlotte.
    Mr Newman, 72, who has played with the Beatles and the Rolling Stones, said they first spotted it sitting on the low wall surrounding their patio, calmly staring back at them through the kitchen window.
    Carol Montague, who works for a letting firm run by the Newmans, said: "I was the first one to see it and I was very frightened because I couldn't believe how big it was.
    "I thought it was a leopard or something. I had never seen anything like it before. It was only about 4ft away from me.
    "It was the size of an Alsatian but I could tell it was very young, like a cub. It has mottled beige and grey fur with what looked like little black feathers on the top of its ears and very soft looking baby fur on its belly.
    "I called the police immediately and I don't think they believed me at first because they just laughed. "But then they arrived, said 'where is it?' and then realised I wasn't mad after all."
    She also called Mrs Newman, who returned home from a shopping trip to see the big cat, which was by then gambolling round the manicured lawn.
    Mrs Newman, 56, said: "The thing I was most worried about was getting our Staffordshire bull terrier Samson safely locked away indoors.
    "I didn't know who would have attacked who, but I thought at the very least Samson might have scared the lynx away and we would never have caught it.
    "It was a very beautiful animal, like something from a postcard, but I couldn't believe what I was seeing because it is such an urban environment around here."
    By 12 noon there about 20 people packed into the Newmans' house on Hocroft Avenue including the zoo team, RSPCA officers and the police.
    Mr Newman, a saxophonist and clarinettist, said it was like a scene from the "Keystone Cops" watching attempts to catch the lynx.
    First the police and London zoo team tried to coax it into a cage but it kept running off into the bushes.
    Next they tried to capture it using a net, but they kept on missing.
    Then they tried to grab it round the neck using a pole, but that also failed.
    Finally they tried to lure it into the building containing the Newman's heated swimming pool, but again the cowering creature refused.
    Mr Newman said: "In the end they tried to dart it but I think they missed. It had had enough and ran off, jumped over the 6ft fence at the end of our garden, ran through the derelict tennis courts behind our house and dashed through the alleyway into the road.
    "Everyone immediately ran off through the house en masse, like the Keystone Cops. It was like something from a movie. The last I saw of it, it went strolling off down Hocroft Avenue. It wasn't even running off like it was in a panic."
    Mr Newman's daughter, Leora, 32, followed the animal and its pursuers to a block of flats round the corner into Farm Avenue.
    They found the lynx hiding in an alcove beneath a stairwell and cautiously approached it so it would not run off again.
    Leora said: "They managed to dart it again but then waited a while before it became sedated.
    "They were waiting for it to calm down because it was a bit feisty. Finally they threw a net over it and then managed to get it into the cage."
    The whole operation finished at around 5pm she said, and lasted about six hours.
    Leora added: "It was a pretty surreal afternoon. It was such a gorgeous animal, like a big tabby cat. I hope they find whoever owns it and give them a severe telling off. It is very cruel that an animal like that should be allowed to be get into trouble like this."
    The lynx was taken to London Zoo where head keeper of big cats, Ray Charter, said: "We get numerous calls at London Zoo reporting big cat sightings and so far all of them have proved incorrect - it usually turns out to be a large domestic cat.
    "So you can imagine my surprise when I bent down to look under the hedge expecting to see a large Ginger Tom, only to be met by a much more exotic face."
    After some time trying to net the lynx, it was finally caught some hours later under some steps to a nearby flat.
    The animal - an 18-month-old European lynx - was soon sedated with a blowpipe.
    Animal handler Terry Marsh, who was also involved in catching the lynx, described it as "underweight, but in a fair condition".
    A London Zoo spokesman would not speculate on where it had come from, but an RSPCA expert thought it might have escaped from a private collection.
    Unlike the Spanish Lynx,
    the European lynx is not an endangered species, but is listed and is classed as a dangerous wild animal.

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