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    One for One Variation

    Devon and Cornwall Police change in procedure for One for One Variation.

    Old procedure:-

    Apply for Variation-
    Receive a temporary certificate, usually 3 months, for the existing firearm and a slot for the new firearm.
    Buy new firearm and dispose of old firearm inside of 3 months or apply for extension/variation.


    New procedure:-

    Dispose of old firearm
    Apply for slot for new firearm.
    Receive certificate with new slot.
    Acquire new firearm.


    D&C said they were told they couldn't do the old system any longer......

    That seems far more restricting.

    What do the rest of the country do?

    Cant see that this is going to help the gun trade,they should be lobbying to get it sorted quick.

    Martin

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    just been in to bushwear as I am thinking of changing my 308, was told the procedure is as you stated for "New Method" a 1 for 1 should be done in short time so not a problem to me

    Cheers
    Ray

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    Can't see why the gun trade would be lobbying for anything on this one. If the above is correct then all D&C are doing is bringing their 1-4-1 procedure into line with current HO Guidance etc.

    What's the source of the info in the OP's post?

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    Just done one with the Met and I sold my rifle, sent FAC, got it back, bought new rifle, sent my FAC, got it back. Painful but at least it only takes about a week each time as they're pretty fast.

    That was what I was advised to do even though the other method makes more sense. One alternative is to send FAC for a variation to add one extra slot, sell old rifle and buy new one upon its return and then send it back to update it. That will cost you 20 though as it's a variation, not a one-for-one.



    Quote Originally Posted by 2130martin View Post
    Devon and Cornwall Police change in procedure for One for One Variation.

    Old procedure:-

    Apply for Variation-
    Receive a temporary certificate, usually 3 months, for the existing firearm and a slot for the new firearm.
    Buy new firearm and dispose of old firearm inside of 3 months or apply for extension/variation.


    New procedure:-

    Dispose of old firearm
    Apply for slot for new firearm.
    Receive certificate with new slot.
    Acquire new firearm.


    D&C said they were told they couldn't do the old system any longer......

    That seems far more restricting.

    What do the rest of the country do?

    Cant see that this is going to help the gun trade,they should be lobbying to get it sorted quick.

    Martin

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    Essex, Norfolk and suffolk all follow what you call the 'new procedure' in the op.

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    What is the time taken for D&C to turn around a One for One Request ??
    having a spare slot means you are not without a Rifle and once the old one is sold surely then you could apply for a One for One in a different calibre to keep a spare slot

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    Devon and Cornwall like were previously just trying to be helpful but it wasn't really how things should have been done and they have obviously been told that they need to get back into line. I have heard of a couple of forces previously operating such as system mainly in Scotland and it was done mainly to assist professional stalkers who could not be without one of tools of the trade.
    It's the calibre of the shooter that counts not the calibre of the rifle.

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    In Essex that means you will be without a rifle for around 12 weeks minimum

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpyoldsod View Post
    What is the time taken for D&C to turn around a One for One Request ??
    Other than a glitch with my last renewal, (which was sorted out in a reasonable time frame once they realised their error), I've always found their turnaround times to be very good. As the FLD with the highest number of FAC/SGC in England & Wales to administer they've built an enviable reputation for running a tight ship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray7756 View Post
    just been in to bushwear as I am thinking of changing my 308, was told the procedure is as you stated for "New Method" a 1 for 1 should be done in short time so not a problem to me

    Cheers
    Ray
    What if you want to sell your old firearm privately and it takes longer and in the mean time Bushwear sell the Firearm to someone else?

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