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    222 as a 22rf

    Accurate reloading had a link to this A Hunters Reflections: Reloading Ramblings.

    using a load of trail boss, gives velocity and performance of a rimfire out of a 222 or 223. So one rifle good for vermin / foxes out to 200 plus yards, yet can be used on rabbits so they are still edible.

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    Yes, and there are other powders which can make the .223 shoot like a .22 WMR or a .22 Hornet. Trail Boss rocks!

    With a 50 or 55 grain bullet at 3200 FPS, it will topple coyotes at 400+ yards, and with a heavier TSX or 64-gr SPT bullet, it is plenty for small deer out to 150 yards.

    Old timers were going camping for weeks at a time to hunt elk and sheep, using mild 150-gr FMJ loads of pistol and shotgun powders in their .30-06s to take rabbit and grouse for camp meat.

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    Sounds like an expensive answer to a very cheap issue. I just paid forty quid for 500 RF Win subs, how much for 500 triples ? You could soon pay for a cheap old Brno Rimmy !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wcog106 View Post
    Sounds like an expensive answer to a very cheap issue. I just paid forty quid for 500 RF Win subs, how much for 500 triples ? You could soon pay for a cheap old Brno Rimmy !!
    That much is true, however, carrying those two rifles likely isn't too practical
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greener Jim View Post
    That much is true, however, carrying those two rifles likely isn't too practical
    Plus think of all the fun you could have by working up a load and shooting it, think I might give it ago.

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    It's all fun and games my mate has a 308 and has loads from subsonic 110gr up to full power 220gr with everything in between.
    Definitely getting the use from that rifle!
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    I'm sure it would tuck all the boxes for someone but I prefer one gun with one bullet

    if ive got to shoot deer and rabbit well the rabbit will still be there on the next adventure out in which case I'd take the RF

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    Do low velocity rounds with trail boss and cast lead bullets leave much fouling down the bore? At 26 a tub compared to 46 and with cheap cast bullets, it maybe just the ticket for cheap practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern View Post
    Yes, and there are other powders which can make the .223 shoot like a .22 WMR or a .22 Hornet. Trail Boss rocks!

    With a 50 or 55 grain bullet at 3200 FPS, it will topple coyotes at 400+ yards,
    and with a heavier TSX or 64-gr SPT bullet, it is plenty for small deer out to 150 yards.
    would love to try to some Trail Boss

    I use a triple with 60gr Hornday softpoints and it flattens roe deer well past 150yds and I am not pushing them that fast, circa 3k by the book data

    I have actually taken two rifles out on a stalk as there is a clearing at the end of the route I take on one piece of ground that is lifting with grey squirrels
    had my 12" barrelled .22lr it slung vertically down the inside sleeve of a camelbak pack.
    Got to the clearing, no bloody squirrels!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bewsher500 View Post
    I use a triple with 60gr Hornday softpoints and it flattens roe deer well past 150yds and I am not pushing them that fast, circa 3k by the book data
    Surely, on a roe deer. I have flattened a large coyote at 400 yards with a 55-gr Win SP. The modern M-16 will punch a steel helmet at 600 meters. I don't think I would shoot a deer larger than 150 lbs beyond 150 yards with a good .223 load - just me, always trying to leave a margin. Same for my .22 Savage High Power. My smallest "deer rifle" is a .250 Savage 99.

    Back to the thread topic, I see nothing wrong with having fun with loads. And for a trapper with one rifle, like a Savage 24 in .223 or .222 and 20 gauge, it is very practical. I have been shooting mild cast and jacketed loads in my 1888 Commission Rifle and my .303 Enfields for a long time - great fun to go to the range and shoot 50 rounds for becoming familiar with a rifle.

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