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    Shooting Standard on Beater's Day

    Following on from Wingers243's post regarding the standard of shotgun shooting in general, now that the Cock shoots have started (I attended one as a gun yesterday) I was wondering if the beaters are shooting to a higher standard than the usual guns? On the shoot that I was on, I would say that only 7 of them could shoot to a reasonable standard. The usual guns on average were much better.

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    One of shooting's truisms: "Never a bird flew that the beaters couldn't hit".

    Of course once the beaters are carrying guns those birds are never quite so easy

    To be fair, I also know of beaters who can put the regular guns to shame
    O wad some Power the giftie gie us to see oursels as ithers see us!

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    So true Willie. The shoot is fantastic with really good topography. The bag was 125. I shot 19 head. I was probably top gun however the pegs were kind to me. That said, the gun two to my right could have shot 10 on one drive. He only shot one runner which was picked. All others were clean misses! At least 3 other guns shot 15 head. I suspect that some didn't hit a bird all day!

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    Its always worrying that some of them only shoot once a year on beaters day and turn up with borrowed guns and no insurance

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    From one grumpy old Devon sod to another. Of course there will be those that turn up on beaters or any other day for that matter without insurance. There are considerable numbers of country folk who don't bother with websites. don't read magazines and who just do what they have always done, go shooting.
    Right or wrong that's the way it is. They perhaps only shoot pheasant one day a year but possibly carry a gun far more than the guns on pegs ever will.
    I look back at the days when shooting was free and easy, no DSCs no "permissions" we got on with the landowners and did our thing, today everything has got so hide bound in what you have to do and we must all go down the same routes. One other thing that gets me going are the growing number of people who come into the country to live and proceed to look down their noses at those of us who have lived here all our lives because we go shooting/ferreting or anything else that involves animals.
    There, I feel better now, just another grumpy old sod looking back at times that will never return.

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    It must be a touch emanating for the gentry to watch the common folk out them to shame every beaters day I shot on a keepers day Wednesday only a walk round mini driven affair we bagged 65 head the average back on the and day but with paying guns is 25 if they're lucky we shot 3.5 to one they shoot 8 to 10 to one beaters day will produce 125 to 150 birds to a dozen guns and we will shoot 4to one at a guess then again ive alwAfs said if you eat what you shoot you don't waste many cartridges

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    soon find out they'll be arriving in an hour ! have a safe day folks here goes !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swatty View Post
    It must be a touch emanating for the gentry to watch the common folk out them to shame every beaters day I shot on a keepers day Wednesday only a walk round mini driven affair we bagged 65 head the average back on the and day but with paying guns is 25 if they're lucky we shot 3.5 to one they shoot 8 to 10 to one beaters day will produce 125 to 150 birds to a dozen guns and we will shoot 4to one at a guess then again ive alwAfs said if you eat what you shoot you don't waste many cartridges
    Blimey, I thought after R-D's recent thread we were through with all this class war stuff?

    I know guns from both ends of the "wealth" spectrum who would view 3.5 to 1 as a pretty poor day's shooting to be honest.

    Maybe it doesn't matter whether the person behind the gun is from the gentry or common folk?

    Maybe being a "sporting gun" has nothing to do with the thickness of your wallet?

    Maybe the ability to hit a good pheasant, partridge or grouse is simply down to skill and practice than an accident of birth?

    Maybe using stereotypes does no-one any favours?
    Last edited by willie_gunn; 23-01-2016 at 08:33.
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    Quote Originally Posted by willie_gunn View Post
    Blimey, I thought after R-D's recent thread we were through with all this class war stuff?

    I know guns from both ends of the "wealth" spectrum who would view 3.5 to 1 as a pretty poor day's shooting to be honest.

    Maybe it doesn't matter whether the person behind the gun is from the gentry or common folk?

    Maybe being a "sporting gun" has nothing to do with the thickness of your wallet?

    Maybe the ability to hit a good pheasant, partridge or grouse is simply down to skill and practice than an accident of birth?

    Maybe using stereotypes does no-one any favours?
    Well said. I would have left out the Maybe from the post. I go to shoot days, formal or beaters days to enjoy myself not worry if someone shoots better or worse than me. Who cares ?
    Over many years of shooting , stalking i have met people who shoot who come from council houses to castles and they have all been a mix of, the good, the bad and the ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swatty View Post
    It must be a touch emanating for the gentry
    Anyone care to explain what this means, please?

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