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    how long to wait for DSC2?

    What's the usual length of time to expect to wait between completion of Level 2 portfolio and (i) contact from the assessor; and (ii) issue of the certificate?

    Paperwork completed and sent off mid Dec, not a peep since.

    Even Edinburgh University admin is quicker than that...

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    As an AW this really frustrates me, I have had portfolios go through for candidates as quick as 4/6 weeks and the longest wait was 11 months.

    If you have not heard within 6-8 weeks get on the blower. I always ask my candidates to call me if they have not heard anything bar their letter of reciept from DMQ for 8 weeks, then I start to chase them up.

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    What's the reason for the slow turnaround?

    I get in serious trouble if I turn anything around in more than 14 days, regardless of how busy I am or how many scripts come in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mungo View Post
    What's the reason for the slow turnaround?

    I get in serious trouble if I turn anything around in more than 14 days, regardless of how busy I am or how many scripts come in.
    Most people are paid on results.

    I don't know what (if anything) the Assessors or Admin are paid for their work on DSC2 portfolios, but presumably if it is largely voluntary - or has to be fitted in around their "real" jobs - it isn't necessarily at the top of the priority list.

    Given DMQ is not for profit, and BASC and BDS provide a lot of the support, how much would candidates be willing to pay in order to guarantee a 14 day turnaround on portfolios?
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    I'm not sure there's a strong case for increasing the fee to ensure rapid turnaround: you already pay 150 or so to register, and it's unclear to me that you're really getting 150 worth of anything for that.

    The bulk of the time consuming work is conducted by the AW (who will either be doing it as a favour or as part of a bought stalk, and so doesn't cost the DMQ or assessment centre anything). The Assessment centre just processes the paper, and even the most ludicrously ineffecient goverment departments would be expected to do something that simple for a tiny fraction of the cost.

    It is really unclear why the system is so slow and expensive (and here I am specifically criticising the certification process, not the witnessing).

    Other than (at most) half an hour of an administrator's time to process the paperwork and do the mailing back and forth, plus the cost of the bits of paper themselves, every other part of the system is either free or paid for by the candidate.

    Am I missing something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mungo View Post
    Am I missing something?
    Possibly not, but my guess - and it is just that, a guess, so others on here may be able to enlighten us with the facts - is that the delay comes from two things; first the review of the portfolio and questioning of the Candidate by an Assessor, of which there are a limited number, and second, that the completed certification then needs to be signed off, as my guess (there's that word again) is that this is done remotely in batch, rather than on-site and on an individual basis.

    The admin may be centralised, but I doubt all of the relevant staff are located in the same physical location, so it's probably not that they are all sitting in the same room (or even county) waiting for a completed portfolio to drop through the letter box.

    Stuff gets sent around - remember it's a physical portfolio, not electronic - and because none of the staff are likely to be full-time salaried DMQ employees they have to fit this work in around their real jobs.
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    Mine took a couple of months, I did call up the assessment centre and I did telephone tag with the assessor for a few days as both of us were busy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willie_gunn View Post
    Possibly not, but my guess - and it is just that, a guess, so others on here may be able to enlighten us with the facts - is that the delay comes from two things; first the review of the portfolio and questioning of the Candidate by an Assessor, of which there are a limited number, and second, that the completed certification then needs to be signed off, as my guess (there's that word again) is that this is done remotely in batch, rather than on-site and on an individual basis.

    The admin may be centralised, but I doubt all of the relevant staff are located in the same physical location, so it's probably not that they are all sitting in the same room (or even county) waiting for a completed portfolio to drop through the letter box.

    Stuff gets sent around - remember it's a physical portfolio, not electronic - and because none of the staff are likely to be full-time salaried DMQ employees they have to fit this work in around their real jobs.
    This explains the slow, but not the expensive!

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    Mungo, this has been done many many times before and 150 is absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. These things have to be checked and re-checked to ensure that it has been completed within the rules. If I remember correctly, the Assessor is paid something like 20. Out of that comes the postage to send it back (possibly more than once if it has to go back to the candidate as well?) phone calls and time. I doubt the time spent equates to the minimum wage after the postage for what is a large document comes out? Would it be at the top of your priority list for that money? I appreciate that to us candidates it is hugely important but to the assessor it's just a hobby. Sorry but that's how it is. Patience is a virtue!

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    Thinking about this, it is exactly the sort of process that would benefit from being digitised. This would doubtless help from both a cost and a time perspective.

    My guess, though, is that many prefer the physical paper version, as not everyone (stalkers and DMQ included) may be sufficiently computer literate.
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