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    Accuracy International AW - problems?

    My pal has spent approx 4k on one of these rifles and found that the Picattinny rail is 9 MOA out of true to the rifle bore axis.
    Anybody else had problems with AI rifles?

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    The rail is out of true to the bore axis as they are designed for very long range shooting - the back of the rail will be higher than the front to compensate for the bullet drop when out at 500m plus - this allows you to sight in so you have plenty of room adjustment on the sights etc. If it was parallel to the bore the you would quickly run out of adjustment.

    I am sure some of the long range shooters on this forum could give a lot more detail.

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    Absolutely nothing wrong with that rail.

    Tell your mate to mount a S&B PMII and he'll be sorted well out beyond 1000yds at least. The spec will say 1st round hit guaranteed to 600yds, but that doesn't even start to test that rifles abilities.

    I carried an L96 for over 2 yrs relatively hassle free. Your mate wouldn't dream of putting his rifle through what i and others did on a regular basis.

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    Mine was bore sighted by York guns ! when i tried to zero it i could not get enough elivation !!

    Turned out the mount was on back to front . I still wonder what the chap who boresighted it was looking at when he used the boresight ?

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    That's probably the biggest problem - people with too little knowledge assuming that it's just another rifle with expensive accessories. It's a weapons system requiring training to get the best from it and to modify.

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    Well put Marc , IMO to many amatures playing sniper, I wonder how many would last the beat up to the course .

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    If the axis by which it is 9 MOA is out is the vertical, you have encountered one of these : http://6mmbr.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=2004181

    If it is in the horizontal axis you have encountered one of these : http://www.thenervousbreakdown.com/w...ar_lemon_v.jpg

    Considering the reputation these rifles have in the field my first instinct would be to plump for the former!

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    Well, that's just great. The 'could be helpfull' pro's slagging off the amateurs. Since when did this become the Snide Snipers forum? If you two guys are representative of the best Her Majesty has to offer then it's time I stopped supporting H4H.
    If the guy did not spec' a 10 mill' base then perhaps he has the right to wonder why his rifle/scope combo won't mount to point of aim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longlowdog View Post
    Well, that's just great. The 'could be helpfull' pro's slagging off the amateurs. Since when did this become the Snide Snipers forum? If you two guys are representative of the best Her Majesty has to offer then it's time I stopped supporting H4H.
    If the guy did not spec' a 10 mill' base then perhaps he has the right to wonder why his rifle/scope combo won't mount to point of aim.
    You're being way too touchy longlowdog. I wasn't being snide; i meant what i said in that the system is unique. Everything is designed for a specific purpose and quite different from what most people will ever pick up and use. For example:
    1. Look at the trigger guard and you'll note the over-large shape to accomodate gloves.
    2. The bolt is unique to all others in that it is specifically designed to not freeze nor clog with ice - a common problem with bolt action rifles in arctic conditions. Best way to keep a rifle operational in such conditions is not to take it into the tent with you, but to dig a shallow hole in the snow and bury it where instantly accessible.
    3. A good armourer is not a riflesmith, but they have been specifically trained in the 'Accuracy International Way' to maintain and modify that rifle. You wouldn't believe how bad it was when the rifles were first issued without adequate support - there are stories of scopes practically rattling off, barrels shooting out, etc.

    I could go on and on, but you'd only fall asleep or die of boredom. My point wasn't meant as an insult - merely that unless taught otherwise the average joe will look at the AW and consider it just another 'tactical' rifle. Accordingly he may well not understand the purpose or benefit of the 'thingy' bolted onto theirs.

    This has been proven to me time and again when strangers have approached me with theirs asking me to 'fix' it. Usually this can range from incorrect mounting of scopes, completely innapropriate scopes, tinkering with parts they have no knowledge of or most usually trying to zero it as too short distances (100yds or less). Put me next to a fella shooting an AW and i'm as quiet as a mouse - i want nothing to do with it, i don't have hours to waste tweaking it or listening to how many months you wasted listening to the sales assistant masquerading as a riflesmith.

    My advice to anyone determined to buy an AW is to buy an AE. You will never abuse the rifle in the ways it is designed to withstand and doing which not change the zero: you'll never jump with one (i did), you're unlikely to drop it down the face of a mountain whilst on a German alpine course (i did), you won't change the barrel 3 times in one day (i did). The AE will do everything you're ever likely to require and save you 2 grand in the process.

    Lastly, don't think for one minute the the army hands you an L96 and a book of secrets which makes you all knowing, all capable. Widow's Son will support me when i state that you go through all manner of endless ***** before they'll even let you touch one and then it's only to learn how to clean it properly.

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    Scotsgun, I understand everything you have to say regarding the rifles in question and indeed happen to own a tough +1k capable rifle with a S+B on top. However, what does Widows Son's reply "IMO to many amatures playing sniper, I wonder how many would last the beat up to the course" have to do with constructive/helpfull or polite assistance and how much does it have to do with personal aggrandisement?

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