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    Rifle advice please

    Gentlemen (and ladies),

    I've been fortunate enough to be awarded an FAC, among the empty spaces, one exists for a 6.5x55, for target.

    Background, I'm a member of a club, but my goal would be stalking. Presently, I have only done pheasants etc with a shotgun.

    The challenges are finding a good rifle with scope and then finding a place for stalking, preferably in East of England.

    Suggestions for rifles? My local dealer has a 6.5x55 Sauer 202 with Zeiss scope 3-12 Victory for a hefty 2500. What does the panel think? I could strrrretch that far, if the opinion was that this could be an excellent price, for a go-to rifle.

    I was hoping to spend a bit less for the package, but don't mind going for quality. I gather Sauers are very respected.

    I'll repost again, looking for stalking once Ive got a rifle I can be happy with.

    All suggestions/opinions wanted and sought.

    Many thanks
    Last edited by RM100; 17-03-2016 at 20:00.

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    That is a hefty tag and I think there are possibly better alternatives. Nothing wrong with Sauer but your not just paying for function - and do you need a take down?
    Reality is there isn't a master of all trades so you'll compromise one way or another, either on weight or number of shots that can be taken before heat is an issue.

    First things first, what ranges are you shooting targets at, and what sort of stalking will you be doing?
    If it's relatively short range (sub 900yds) and woodland then I'd say a heavy barrel sporter.

    If you're doing long range and the hill then you're better off with 2 guns as this is where most people end up in the end.
    26"+ .308 and a lightweight stalker.

    P.S. if you ask 10 people for opinions on rifles, 3 will say Tikka, 4 Sako, 2 Blaser and the other will go something more obscure. Most everyone owns a Remington at some point, but typically not for long
    Last edited by Milligan; 17-03-2016 at 07:27.

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    Sauer 202 is a great rifle and Zeiss Victory is a great scope, check out prices online see what they actually come in at and see if you are getting a deal or not, does it come with a mod, sling, mounts, rings etc etc. At the end of the day buy what takes your fancy, I've had 3 Sako's but can't see past my Sauer 101 synthetic it's a no frills rifle in 6.5 that shoots straight and kills whatever I shoot at. Happy hunting!


    Alba gu bràth

    Sauer 101 6.5x55, Beretta Silver Pigeon 12g Over&Under
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    This is all the rifle you'll ever need...
    https://www.guntrader.uk/Guns-For-Sa...60311153959004

    You might want to change the Swarovski 6x42 scope at some point, but if you're only shooting at sub-150yds, it's plenty enough.

    Comes with bipod, sling and mod for £1,149.

    I have no association with the rifle or the retailer, but it's amazing what a quick trip to Guntrader can find! This rifle won't hang around for long
    Sako 75 6.5x55mm-Z6i 3-18x50. MauserM12 .308-SIII 6-24x50. Beretta 690 III Field 12b.
    "You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life."
    Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill (1874-1965)

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    You could have my Sauer synthetic for £800 without a scope, but Farticus is bang on with his suggestion. A good deal.

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    Better still i've an advert under firearms for sale for a BSA 6.5 x 55 with a very good scope. It has a bit of provenance in that it was owned by a BSA sales director and it is one of the last 6.5s from the factory.

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    There is a cracking CZ550 6.5x55 in my local gunshop which I can get for £360. I have 2 lovely Sauer rifles but I'm probably going to get this one, use the iron sights, no moderator and have something light and simple I can just go and get a roe without worrying if I've knocked it off zero.

    When I see pictures of stalkers sporting military calibre rifles with massive scopes, sound moderators, bipods I wonder if some people have confused roe deer with heavily armed taliban.

    NB if your FAC is for target, you can't use the 6.5 for stalking, why not get stalking put on while it's still just been issued to save the hassle and cost of a variation.

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    I have a question, something that has been puzzling me for a while now, why is a 6x magnification scope only good for 150 yards or less?

    You might want to change the Swarovski 6x42 scope at some point, but if you're only shooting at sub-150yds, it's plenty enough.
    As I said I am confused as after all most binos used in stalking are only 7-10 x magnification and surely they are used over much more extended ranges than sub 150 yards so why do modern stalkers need more than 6x mag to safely and cleanly shoot a dear?

    I see not all stalkers require this: ...

    There is a cracking CZ550 6.5x55 in my local gunshop which I can get for £360. I have 2 lovely Sauer rifles but I'm probably going to get this one, use the iron sights, no moderator and have something light and simple I can just go and get a roe without worrying if I've knocked it off zero.
    Am basing this question on the fact that my Brno 308 had a 4x Zeiss Jena scope on it and that rifle accounted for a few deer over the years. Not once did it seem underpowered in the optics depatment. When I scoped the old 303 with a 4x40 scope and it performed rather well at 600 yards on Bisley's Century range.

    It is a shame that more do not spend more time on the range with their rifles honing their shooting skills as it seems most think that they are natural borm marksmen. The Swedish 6.5mm is an excellent target round as well as a live quarry round. I have to agree that NOW would be the time to get the missing stalking condition but I wld also expect to accept conditions on this usage.

    Will be surprised if they do not insist on your being accompanied by an experienced stalker. May I wish you the very best and fun in your search for the right rifle for you. I am envious as I simply love the hunt for the right rifle.

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    To the OP: if you're just starting out, you don't need a rifle, much though it's tempting to buy one. What you need first is some guided stalking with different people. This way you will a) learn about stalking; and b) try some different rifles. Only when you're ready to stalk unaccompanied will you need your own rifle.

    If your 6.5 X 55 slot is for target, btw, what calibre(s) have you got slots for for stalking, as a matter of interest? For guided stalks you don't need anything, of course - all you have to do is turn up and pay attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armo. View Post
    There is a cracking CZ550 6.5x55 in my local gunshop which I can get for £360. I have 2 lovely Sauer rifles but I'm probably going to get this one, use the iron sights, no moderator and have something light and simple I can just go and get a roe without worrying if I've knocked it off zero.
    Good for you!
    I hunter I know had about ten rifles, bought a CZ 550 FS stutzen in 6.5x55, was so pleased that he bought another in 9.3x62mm and sold the other ten rifles. It is easy to remove iron sights, but can be expensive to add them to a sightless rifle. Warne makes quick release rings which fit the CZ 550 integral bases, with a good return to zero. A small scope like a 4x32 Leupold or 2-7x35mm Burris or Vortex will fit in your coat pocket.

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