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    .22 Winchester Super X 40Gn trajectory

    Does any one know where I can get a trajectory sheet/ data? Shame Winchester don't produce one- like you can get in basic form for many of the centrefire rounds. Would be useful to know the exact performance/ drop over 100yds (without testing it myself!). Wondering if somebody might have the data from one of the various scope reticule data sheets? Thanks.

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    ballistic lists a lot of the 22lr loads
    Right where's those stones , I'll start !

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    Would be useful to know the exact performance/ drop over 100yds (without testing it myself!).

    Exact is a pie in the sky, all rifles will perform differently.

    Rimfire Rifle Ballistics: this should get you started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sauer90 View Post
    Would be useful to know the exact performance/ drop over 100yds (without testing it myself!).

    Exact is a pie in the sky, all rifles will perform differently.

    Rimfire Rifle Ballistics: this should get you started.
    actually your wrong ! don't you read the interweb ? all you need is to throw money at it with loads of Gucci kit and you will become able to print half inch groups at 300m all day long and shoot game animals at twice that distance in the head whilst moving (you and them) it's simple really............
    Right where's those stones , I'll start !

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    Winchester says that the BC = 0.109 when fired at an MV of 1085 FPS.

    You can put that into some program like JBM Ballistics and get a close approximation for your rifle, with its sight height above the bore. But you are going to have to shoot any load in your rifle in 10 yard increments beyond 50 yards in order to know the actual drop and holdover or turret clicks to aim at longer ranges.

    And there are programs which will let you enter the actual drops at various ranges and compute the actual BC for you, if you also measure the MV. To my way of thinking, it is just easier to shoot the various ammunition and make some notes of how many clicks, or what the BDC mark actually corresponds to in yards.

    Here are some old BCs of 40-gr match ammunition...As you can see, it lists the Winchester at 0.150, and some Eley at .150 and others at 0.105 for the same weight and MV. That is why you can't use the first "data" you find.

    RWS, 40-gr. R100 (213 4195), 1175 MV, 123 ME, 0.130 BC
    REMINGTON, 40-gr. LR Target Solid (6122) (6100), 1150 MV, 117 ME, 0.149 BC
    WINCHESTER, 40-gr. T22 LR Std. Vel. Solid (XT22LR), 1150 MV, 117 ME, 0.149 BC
    FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Ultramatch Solid (UM1), 1140 MV, 115 ME, 0.149 BC
    FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Match Solid (900), 1140 MV, 115 ME, 0.149 BC
    AGUILA, 40-gr. LR Std. Vel., 1135 MV, 114 ME, 0.158 BC
    PMC, 40-gr. Scoremaster LR Std. Vel. Solid (22SM), 1135 MV, 114 ME, 0.111 BC
    FIOCCHI, 40-gr. LR Biathlon Match Solid (22SM340), 1120 MV, 111 ME, 0.140 BC=Estimated
    AGUILA, 40-gr. LR Match Golden Eagle, 1100 MV, 110 ME, 0.109 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Polar Biathlon Solid (4317023), 1100 MV, 107 ME, 0.108 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Tenex Ultimate EPS, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Match EPS, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Club, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Target, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.105 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Practice, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Standard, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Biathlon Match, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. LR Silhouex, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    REMINGTON/ELEY,40-gr. Match EPS (RE22EPS), 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.149 BC
    REMINGTON/ELEY, 40-gr. Club Extra (RE22CX), 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.149 BC
    REMINGTON/ELEY, 40-gr. Target Rifle (RE22T), 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.149 BC
    AGUILA, 40-gr. Match Rifle, 1080 MV, 100 ME, 0.197 BC
    SELLIER and BELLOT, 40-gr. LR SB Standard (SBA02201), 1084 MV, 104 ME, 0.131 BC
    SELLIER and BELLOT, 40-gr. LR SB Standard (SBA02202), 1084 MV, 104 ME, 0.131 BC
    FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Ultramatch Solid (UM1B), 1080 MV, 105 ME, 0.139 BC
    FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Target Solid (711B), 1080 MV, 105 ME, 0.138 BC
    FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Match Solid (900B), 1080 MV, 105 ME, 0.139 BC
    RWS, 40-gr. LR Target Rifle (213 2478), 1080 MV, 100 ME, 0.109 BC
    CCI, 40-gr. LR Std. Vel. Solid (0032), 1070 MV, 100 ME, 0.105 BC
    CCI, 40-gr. LR Green Tag Comp. Solid (0033), 1070 MV, 100 ME, 0.105 BC
    CCI, 40-gr. LR Pistol Match Solid (0051), 1070 MV, 100 ME, 0.105 BC
    RWS, 40-gr. LR R50 (21304187), 1070 MV, 100 ME, 0.105 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Master Solid (4317033), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Midas L Solid (4317022), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Midas M Solid (4317021), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC
    NORMA 1, 40-gr. Lead, Round Nose (15613), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC
    NORMA 2, 40-gr. Lead, Round Nose (15614), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC
    NORMA 3, 40-gr. Lead, Round Nose (15615), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC
    FIOCCHI, 40-gr. LR-Rifle Match Solid (22SM320), 1050 MV, 98 ME, 0.140 BC
    FIOCCHI, 40-gr. LR Match Trng. Solid (22M320), 1050 MV, 98 ME, 0.130 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Super Club Solid (4317066), 1050 MV, 98 ME, 0.114 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Std. Rifle Club Solid (43122420), 1050 MV, 98 ME, 0.114 BC
    PMC, 40-gr. Match Rifle (22MR), 1050 MV, 98 ME, 0.110 BC
    RWS, 40-gr. LR Rifle Match (213 4225), 1035 MV, 95 ME, 0.096 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Tenex Ultimate EPS Pistol, 1030 MV, 94 ME, 0.109 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Pistol Xtra, 1030 MV, 94 ME, 0.109 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Target Pistol, 1030 MV, 94 ME, 0.109 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Pistol King Solid (4317031), 1033 MV, 95 ME, 0.130 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Pistol Trainer Solid (4312260), 1033 MV, 95 ME, 0.130 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Pistol Match, 1000 MV, 89 ME, 0.140 BC
    FIOCCHI, 40-gr. LR Pistol Match Solid (22SM300), 984 MV, 86 ME, 0.130 BC
    FIOCCHI, 40-gr. LR Match Trng. Solid (22M300), 984 MV, 86 ME, 0.125 BC
    PMC, 40-gr. Match Pistol (22MP), 900 MV, 72 ME, 0.095 BC
    WINCHESTER, 40-gr. LR Lead HP (W22LRB), 1150 MV, 117 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. LR Subsonic Xtra Plus, 1065 MV, 100 ME, 0.115 BC
    RWS, 40-gr. LR Subsonic HP (213 2494), 1000 MV, 90 ME, 0.092 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Multi Match Solid (4317020), 1100 MV, 129 ME, 0.134 BC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern View Post
    Winchester says that the BC = 0.109 when fired at an MV of 1085 FPS.

    You can put that into some program like JBM Ballistics and get a close approximation for your rifle, with its sight height above the bore. But you are going to have to shoot any load in your rifle in 10 yard increments beyond 50 yards in order to know the actual drop and holdover or turret clicks to aim at longer ranges.

    And there are programs which will let you enter the actual drops at various ranges and compute the actual BC for you, if you also measure the MV. To my way of thinking, it is just easier to shoot the various ammunition and make some notes of how many clicks, or what the BDC mark actually corresponds to in yards.

    Here are some old BCs of 40-gr match ammunition...As you can see, it lists the Winchester at 0.150, and some Eley at .150 and others at 0.105 for the same weight and MV. That is why you can't use the first "data" you find.

    RWS, 40-gr. R100 (213 4195), 1175 MV, 123 ME, 0.130 BC
    REMINGTON, 40-gr. LR Target Solid (6122) (6100), 1150 MV, 117 ME, 0.149 BC
    WINCHESTER, 40-gr. T22 LR Std. Vel. Solid (XT22LR), 1150 MV, 117 ME, 0.149 BC
    FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Ultramatch Solid (UM1), 1140 MV, 115 ME, 0.149 BC
    FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Match Solid (900), 1140 MV, 115 ME, 0.149 BC
    AGUILA, 40-gr. LR Std. Vel., 1135 MV, 114 ME, 0.158 BC
    PMC, 40-gr. Scoremaster LR Std. Vel. Solid (22SM), 1135 MV, 114 ME, 0.111 BC
    FIOCCHI, 40-gr. LR Biathlon Match Solid (22SM340), 1120 MV, 111 ME, 0.140 BC=Estimated
    AGUILA, 40-gr. LR Match Golden Eagle, 1100 MV, 110 ME, 0.109 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Polar Biathlon Solid (4317023), 1100 MV, 107 ME, 0.108 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Tenex Ultimate EPS, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Match EPS, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Club, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Target, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.105 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Practice, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Standard, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Biathlon Match, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. LR Silhouex, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    REMINGTON/ELEY,40-gr. Match EPS (RE22EPS), 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.149 BC
    REMINGTON/ELEY, 40-gr. Club Extra (RE22CX), 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.149 BC
    REMINGTON/ELEY, 40-gr. Target Rifle (RE22T), 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.149 BC
    AGUILA, 40-gr. Match Rifle, 1080 MV, 100 ME, 0.197 BC
    SELLIER and BELLOT, 40-gr. LR SB Standard (SBA02201), 1084 MV, 104 ME, 0.131 BC
    SELLIER and BELLOT, 40-gr. LR SB Standard (SBA02202), 1084 MV, 104 ME, 0.131 BC
    FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Ultramatch Solid (UM1B), 1080 MV, 105 ME, 0.139 BC
    FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Target Solid (711B), 1080 MV, 105 ME, 0.138 BC
    FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Match Solid (900B), 1080 MV, 105 ME, 0.139 BC
    RWS, 40-gr. LR Target Rifle (213 2478), 1080 MV, 100 ME, 0.109 BC
    CCI, 40-gr. LR Std. Vel. Solid (0032), 1070 MV, 100 ME, 0.105 BC
    CCI, 40-gr. LR Green Tag Comp. Solid (0033), 1070 MV, 100 ME, 0.105 BC
    CCI, 40-gr. LR Pistol Match Solid (0051), 1070 MV, 100 ME, 0.105 BC
    RWS, 40-gr. LR R50 (21304187), 1070 MV, 100 ME, 0.105 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Master Solid (4317033), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Midas L Solid (4317022), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Midas M Solid (4317021), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC
    NORMA 1, 40-gr. Lead, Round Nose (15613), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC
    NORMA 2, 40-gr. Lead, Round Nose (15614), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC
    NORMA 3, 40-gr. Lead, Round Nose (15615), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC
    FIOCCHI, 40-gr. LR-Rifle Match Solid (22SM320), 1050 MV, 98 ME, 0.140 BC
    FIOCCHI, 40-gr. LR Match Trng. Solid (22M320), 1050 MV, 98 ME, 0.130 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Super Club Solid (4317066), 1050 MV, 98 ME, 0.114 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Std. Rifle Club Solid (43122420), 1050 MV, 98 ME, 0.114 BC
    PMC, 40-gr. Match Rifle (22MR), 1050 MV, 98 ME, 0.110 BC
    RWS, 40-gr. LR Rifle Match (213 4225), 1035 MV, 95 ME, 0.096 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Tenex Ultimate EPS Pistol, 1030 MV, 94 ME, 0.109 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Pistol Xtra, 1030 MV, 94 ME, 0.109 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Target Pistol, 1030 MV, 94 ME, 0.109 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Pistol King Solid (4317031), 1033 MV, 95 ME, 0.130 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Pistol Trainer Solid (4312260), 1033 MV, 95 ME, 0.130 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Pistol Match, 1000 MV, 89 ME, 0.140 BC
    FIOCCHI, 40-gr. LR Pistol Match Solid (22SM300), 984 MV, 86 ME, 0.130 BC
    FIOCCHI, 40-gr. LR Match Trng. Solid (22M300), 984 MV, 86 ME, 0.125 BC
    PMC, 40-gr. Match Pistol (22MP), 900 MV, 72 ME, 0.095 BC
    WINCHESTER, 40-gr. LR Lead HP (W22LRB), 1150 MV, 117 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. LR Subsonic Xtra Plus, 1065 MV, 100 ME, 0.115 BC
    RWS, 40-gr. LR Subsonic HP (213 2494), 1000 MV, 90 ME, 0.092 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Multi Match Solid (4317020), 1100 MV, 129 ME, 0.134 BC
    I can confirm that this one is correct from experience.
    Right where's those stones , I'll start !

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    Thanks all. Would you believe it Winchester do have a 'ballistic calculator' on their website which I had somehow missed first time round. It quite usefully shows the generic performance of the round (with assumptions, some of which are adjustable) and the drop at different ranges which accord to selectable zero distances. Its actually quite useful as one basic tool for working out the most appropriate distance for zero for my personal requirements, and for comparing different rounds (shame- Winchester only of course). Rest assured I'm not going to be 'dialling in' with my 6x42 or shooting beyond 100yds. Nor will I 'unleash the knowledge' before I have tested my conclusions on paper (i.e. seen the specifics which follow from my own particular set up).
    Just for the benefit of the thread, with a 50 yard example zero, the drops according to the calculator (in inches) are: 60yd 0.7; 70yd 1.8; 80yd 3.2; 90yd 5.1; 100yd 7.4
    I suspect if taken as generic advice- and I can't believe anyone on this forum would be foolish enough to use this kind of untested info on live quarry in isolation, I sincerely hope not- this is accurate enough to be quite useful. The 100yd figure is about 0.2 inches off my own range test, for example.
    On reflection my initial post was rather poorly worded in an effort to avoid 'test it yourself' responses. I will be doing that if the wind don't blow and the lambing doesn't take over Easter......

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    An inexpensive Mil Dot scope with parallax adjustment is very useful for quick ranging and holdover and hold off. At 7x, the dots are right at 5 MOA, at 9x, right at 4 MOA spacing.

    Hawke has a free ballistic calculator which you can download, for their reticles and for Mil Dot and whatever BDC spacing you want to match up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMH123 View Post
    Does any one know where I can get a trajectory sheet/ data? Shame Winchester don't produce one- like you can get in basic form for many of the centrefire rounds. Would be useful to know the exact performance/ drop over 100yds (without testing it myself!). Wondering if somebody might have the data from one of the various scope reticule data sheets? Thanks.
    This used to be one of the most consistently accurate US domestic loads there was back in the early eighties. I did a long drawn out test over 17 months that showed the Winchester Super X could be relied on to group with a 98% consistency. (meaning, regardless of average group for a given rifle, there would be <2% flier rate that would fall outside the average.) (One of the Reps from Winchester asked to review it at her hotel room and I never saw the work again.)That aside, Winchester Super X 40 grain was my 'go to' round since I was 7 years old and through my 40's.~Muir

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