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    Norma brass in 243

    As a starting point I bought 100 Norma Jaktmatch ammo. After reloading them 2/3 times I already have at least 10 cases with split necks. I reload with the help from a friend along standard values.
    We use the Vihtavuori book and the Ramshot website. I use Ramshot hunter powder and HDY 75 and 87 grain bullets. Using medium loads. Never approached the max loads as published on the Ramshot website.
    My friend reloads for about 20 years along standard values published by the companies. No experiments.
    Is the quality of Norma brass not as good as I thought ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hales Smut View Post
    As a starting point I bought 100 Norma Jaktmatch ammo. After reloading them 2/3 times I already have at least 10 cases with split necks. I reload with the help from a friend along standard values.
    We use the Vihtavuori book and the Ramshot website. I use Ramshot hunter powder and HDY 75 and 87 grain bullets. Using medium loads. Never approached the max loads as published on the Ramshot website.
    My friend reloads for about 20 years along standard values published by the companies. No experiments.
    Is the quality of Norma brass not as good as I thought ?

    I would say you have a bad lot of brass
    I don't know the origin of the Jaktmatch ammo but i use norma exclusively because it does not split under multi firings.
    It is a softer brass and responds well without work hardening that I experienced very early on with Lapua and RWS, Federal

    The only splits I had were in .222 of unknown origin which I then fired around 6-8 times before annealing

    The .270, .300wm, .308, .243 brass has not been annealed since I have been using it
    the .270 brass is up around the 10-12 firings

    I neck size almost all of it

    what is your case prep regime?

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    Just needs annealing.
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    I am a complete rookie in this department. My friend reloads to make shooting cheaper. Just uses standard sizes given in reloading manuals. He isn't struggling to get anything special.
    - Rifle rem 700
    - COAL 67 mm ( 2,64" )
    - cleaning cases if needed , necks were to black at the start probably due to to light load.
    - depriming and FL resizing ( greased)
    - priming
    - powder
    - seating bullet to COAL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sauer90 View Post
    Just needs annealing.
    As the man says they just need annealing as they are too brittle. Had the same myself with one batch of .222rem Lapua cases once.
    It's the calibre of the shooter that counts not the calibre of the rifle.

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    Thanks. Had a look on youtube to see what annealing is.
    Do you also do this on new brass? To make it softer around the neck from day 1 ?

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    Have had to anneal 'new' (10years old and unused) brass in the past - brass self hardens over time
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    I looked at an intresting clip on youtube.
    Can I do any harm by annealing once fired cases and than do them again very 3 or 4 loadings ? Doesn't seem a huge job.

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    I will anneal every 3rd firing
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    Been using Norma brass in .243 now for ages. Some of it was fired 5 times before it even needed case trimming, some of it has been fired 8-9 times and never been annealed. I'm using 40.5 grains of H4831, 100 grain Sierra Spitzers & Federal GM210 match primers.
    ILB

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