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Thread: Labrador hip and elbow scores

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    Labrador hip and elbow scores

    Hi all,

    I am interested in getting a lab dog from someone local to me, I have been and had a look and like the look of a yellow dog! The dad has great hip and elbow scores and has also had Dna tests for any other diseases etc, although the mother has had no tests what so ever! A friend of mine shoots with the mother and says she is a good worker and the father is also a good worker. Would you let the fact the mother has no tests done make you walk away? Also the grand parents of the mother have food hip scores.

    Not knowing a lot about labs I feel a bit lost and don't want to buy a dog only to get trouble years down the line if I can avoid it by choosing a dog that has had the checks.

    Any my help would be appreciated

    thanks

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    Both parents should be health checked. Not the latter In the gene pool, may I ask how much Is the puppy. The tests are a lot of money, any good breeders will go though theses tests . But nothing Is a 100 %.

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    Good hip and elbow scores in the parents do not guarantee good scores in the pups.

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    Pups are 550 for a dog

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    If I knew the untested dog and seen it work and move, and liked it and was in the market for a new dog I wouldn't hesitate, each breeder who health tests does all they can to prevent any diseases but it's no guarantee whatsoever, you only do what you can. Of course if you want to breed yourself you should ideally health test beforehand.

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    DNA tested and low scored on hips end elbow mean nothing if you don't know what the other half of the mating is. If you mate clear dogs to clear dogs you get clear pups (on DNA issues) granted no total guarantee about hips and elbows but it is a good indication of low scoring offspring.
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    Personally, I would walk away! A lot of the health test DO guarantee pups will be free from certain diseases. Hip and elbow scores do not guarantee good hips and elbows but they do certainly help. Hips and elbows can be ruined during the first 15 months of a labs life by their lifestyle such as too much exercise, walking up and down stairs or constantly standing on their back legs to see out of the kennel. They could also of cause be born with bad hips or elbows. You're going to own that dog for upwards of ten years. Why not lesson your chances of getting a bad one by buying from known healthy parents? There are plenty out there!
    Last edited by baguio; 26-05-2016 at 05:37.

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    I've just had my lab' bitch mated. I thought very hard about having her scored first, but as others have said good scores from the parents don't guarantee the same from the pups. I have a friend who's lab' puppy had terrible scores, despite her being from superb lines on both sides. The main thing (as mentioned by Baguio) is that the pups aren't over-faced in the early weeks of their lives. To my mind, this is directly responsible for bad hips and elbows, and hereditary influences comes a long way behind.

    Long and short of it is there are no guarantees, but if you like the look of the dam and sire, and there are no obvious health concerns then why not? (and good luck )
    A Man should be wise, but never too wise. He who does not know his fate in advance is free of care

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsmoke View Post
    I've just had my lab' bitch mated. I thought very hard about having her scored first, but as others have said good scores from the parents don't guarantee the same from the pups. I have a friend who's lab' puppy had terrible scores, despite her being from superb lines on both sides. The main thing (as mentioned by Baguio) is that the pups aren't over-faced in the early weeks of their lives. To my mind, this is directly responsible for bad hips and elbows, and hereditary influences comes a long way behind.

    Long and short of it is there are no guarantees, but if you like the look of the dam and sire, and there are no obvious health concerns then why not? (and good luck )
    +1
    didnt score my bitch but was careful with the sire and the linage
    pups have been fine

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    I think the vets would disagree over mechanical and hereditary damage to hips and elbows, they're looking for different things on the X-rays, sure they may exhibit signs of wear but that's not necessarily the signs of hereditary displascia they are trained to spot.
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