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    Brexit the movie

    This put a smile on my face

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    Well on two scores it is a nonsense.

    If Britain voted OUT yet chose to remain in the "trade" area (as the movie says) then, as a condition of that it must accept EU Free Movement Rights. So, yes, you'll still get Roumanians, Bulgarians and etc. coming here.

    It shows a clip of war graves and speaks of people dying for independence. One can speculate that had there been an EU/European Union in 1914 and in 1939 that there would have been no WWI and no WWII. So its rot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by enfieldspares View Post
    It shows a clip of war graves and speaks of people dying for independence. One can speculate that had there been an EU/European Union in 1914 and in 1939 that there would have been no WWI and no WWII. So its rot!
    Tommyrot at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enfieldspares View Post
    Well on two scores it is a nonsense.

    If Britain voted OUT yet chose to remain in the "trade" area (as the movie says) then, as a condition of that it must accept EU Free Movement Rights. So, yes, you'll still get Roumanians, Bulgarians and etc. coming here.

    It shows a clip of war graves and speaks of people dying for independence. One can speculate that had there been an EU/European Union in 1914 and in 1939 that there would have been no WWI and no WWII. So its rot!
    What nonsense

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    So the Jap empire would never have entered the Jap conscience?
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    Well TK you may think it's nonsense but these, from the not always accurate Wiki, are the facts. If you want to Brexit yet remain part of the EU/EEA Free Trade Area then you are obliged to accept Free Movement. If do ot want those obligations to remain then you would need to also exit the EU/EEA Free Trade Area.

    While the EFTA is not a customs union, it does have a co-ordinated trade policy. As a result, its member states have jointly concluded free trade agreements with a number of other countries.

    To participate in the EU's single market, Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway are party to the Agreement on a European Economic Area (EEA), with compliance regulated by the EFTA Surveillance Authority and the EFTA Court. Switzerland instead has a set of bilateral agreements with the EU.

    The European Economic Area (EEA) provides for the free movement of persons, goods, services and capital within the internal market of the European Union (EU) between its 28 member states, as well as three of the four member states of the European Free Trade Association (EFTA): Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway. The Agreement is applied provisionally with respect to Croatia—the remaining and most recent EU member state—pending ratification of its accession by all EEA parties.

    The EEA is based on the same "four freedoms" as the European Community: the free movement of goods, persons, services, and capital among the EEA countries.

    Thus, the EEA countries that are not part of the EU enjoy free trade with the European Union. Also, 'the free movement of persons is one of the core rights guaranteed in the European Economic Area (EEA) ... it is perhaps the most important right for individuals, as it gives citizens of the 30 EEA countries the opportunity to live, work, establish business and study in any of these countries.'

    As a counterpart, these countries have to adopt part of the Law of the European Union.

    However they also contribute to and influence the formation of new EEA relevant policies and legislation at an early stage as part of a formal decision-shaping process.

    Agriculture and fisheries are not covered by the EEA. Not being bound by the Common Fisheries Policy is perceived as very important by Norway and Iceland, and a major reason not to join the EU. The Common Fisheries Policy would mean giving away fishing quotas in their waters.

    The EEA countries that are not part of the EU do not bear the financial burdens associated with EU membership, although they contribute financially to the European single market.

    After the EU/EEA enlargement of 2004, there was a tenfold increase in the financial contribution of the EEA States, in particular Norway, to social and economic cohesion in the Internal Market (€1167 million over five years).

    Non-EU countries do not receive any funding from EU policies and development funds.
    Last edited by enfieldspares; 27-05-2016 at 17:05.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enfieldspares View Post
    Well on two scores it is a nonsense.

    If Britain voted OUT yet chose to remain in the "trade" area (as the movie says) then, as a condition of that it must accept EU Free Movement Rights. So, yes, you'll still get Roumanians, Bulgarians and etc. coming here.
    Yeah, just like Canada...


    Quote Originally Posted by enfieldspares View Post
    It shows a clip of war graves and speaks of people dying for independence. One can speculate that had there been an EU/European Union in 1914 and in 1939 that there would have been no WWI and no WWII. So its rot!
    So you're suggesting Hitler would never had invaded Poland because it was against EU rules?
    Hitler was trying to create the EU, controlled from Berlin instead of Brussels. It took a war to keep our independence. All you have to do now for your independence is vote OUT.

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    There would have been no need for anyone to invade anywhere as under the EU if you need more room for your citizens they are free to move there and live there regardless of national boundaries. And, of course, industry is free to move to, to where it wishes to be or to buy plant and factories.

    Whilst there can never be a "what if" of history it is unlikely that the conditions that brought Hitler to power would have existed in a post-WWI Europe that resembled today's EU. This independence is a nonsense....how independent were we of the dictatorships of Blair or of Thatcher?

    As for the Canada thing? Have you read the text of the deal? You must have missed this then:

    CETA will not affect food-related or environmental regulations in the EU. Canadian products can only be imported and sold in the EU if they fully respect the relevant European regulations - without any exemption.

    Nor will CETA restrict either the EU or Canada from passing new laws in areas of public interest such as the environment, and health and safety.

    CETA provides the basis for a future dialogue between the EU and Canada on policy developments. Both sides will share information about best practices.

    This does not affect the scope of the EU for developing new laws in response to the needs and priorities of European citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enfieldspares View Post
    Well on two scores it is a nonsense.

    If Britain voted OUT yet chose to remain in the "trade" area (as the movie says) then, as a condition of that it must accept EU Free Movement Rights. So, yes, you'll still get Roumanians, Bulgarians and etc. coming here.

    It shows a clip of war graves and speaks of people dying for independence. One can speculate that had there been an EU/European Union in 1914 and in 1939 that there would have been no WWI and no WWII. So its rot!

    I think you have just said it,If there had been an EU in 1914 and 1939 then Hitler would have been our leader....

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    Quote Originally Posted by enfieldspares View Post
    Well on two scores it is a nonsense.



    It shows a clip of war graves and speaks of people dying for independence. One can speculate that had there been an EU/European Union in 1914 and in 1939 that there would have been no WWI and no WWII. So its rot!
    Indeed this is one of the hazards of Brexit we are being led to believe. Frau Merkel's panzers might cross the Oder-Neisse line and reclaim Pomerania and Silesia if we leave. Poland and Belgium you know what's coming...if the remain campaign are to be believed that is.

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