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Thread: How to do a 1-4-1 variation

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    How to do a 1-4-1 variation

    Never done one before.

    I'm looking to change the moderator on my 308 for something different.

    What's the process?

    My understanding was that I...


    1. Have to sell my existing mod
    2. Submit the variation form with my FAC
    3. Receive an updated FAC (with empty slot for new mod)
    4. Buy new moderator


    Is this accurate?

    What concerns me is the waiting time between (2) and (3)!!

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    If there's no serial number on your existing mod (if there is it will be listed in your FAC), and the mod you want to buy doesn't have a serial number, then you don't need to apply for a variation, because there's no way to uniquely identify the moderator on your rifle
    Go to your RFD and get him to buy your old mod off you and also supply your new one - simples.
    I did this a couple of weeks ago, changing the Hardy GenIV on my 243 for a DPT

    Cheers

    Bruce

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    Interesting. There isn't a serial number listed on my FAC... but there is a manufacturer and model stated in the description.

    Did yours just say 'moderator'?

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    Your FAC would have the mod. recorded as..ie. F B Moderator No number, in order to follow mealliejimmy's advice. Otherwise you are correct in the op.

    Unfortunately and (wrongly imo ) they are a separate firearm. john

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlandsjohn View Post
    Your FAC would have the mod. recorded as..ie. F B Moderator No number, in order to follow mealliejimmy's advice. Otherwise you are correct in the op.

    Unfortunately and (wrongly imo ) they are a separate firearm. john
    Oh well, never mind then. Got my hopes up there!

    Agreed, it's ridiculous that they're classed as a separate firearm.

  6. #6
    Can you not put in a variation for an additional moderator, allowing you to possess your existing moderator that you can then sell once you have purchased the new one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toller View Post
    Interesting. There isn't a serial number listed on my FAC... but there is a manufacturer and model stated in the description.

    Did yours just say 'moderator'?
    Yes, mine simply says "full bore moderator" - no make or model number

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh6 View Post
    Can you not put in a variation for an additional moderator, allowing you to possess your existing moderator that you can then sell once you have purchased the new one?
    Hadn't considered that approach. It won't be a 1-4-1 in that case (??) but if it saves me being sans moderator for a while then it's worth enquiring about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toller View Post
    Hadn't considered that approach. It won't be a 1-4-1 in that case (??) but if it saves me being sans moderator for a while then it's worth enquiring about.
    It will be more expensive that way.
    A one for one (god, how I hate 1-4-1!!) won't cost you anything, since you are not increasing the number of "firearms" on your certificate.
    Adding another moderator will increase the number of "firearms" on your certificate - and you'll have to justify why you want another moderator and will cost 26 (I might be wrong on the exact price)

    Cheers

    Bruce

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    26 would be worth it if I didn't have to go a few weeks without a moderator. Not sure how I could justify an 'extra' mod though.

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