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    Waterproof membranes

    Gore-Tex , Sympatex, eVent, ......
    I've been looking a bit around what to expect from waterproof membranes. Pressure points would need more than 10.000 rating, better closer to 20.000.
    Gore-Tex has a rating from >28. 000 , Sympatex rates 45.000 . Most membranes are around 10.000 and some even only 5.000 to 8.000.

    Do some users on here have bad experience with waterproof liners ? This with extreme use. Crawling in wet gras, heather, .......

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    In my experience gore tex is the only one that sort of works, though others come close like the top end Helly Hanson stuff, despite the numbers.

    i also find that if it is cold and the membrane is not worn close to the skin the vapour will condense on the inside of the fabric whatever it is.

    the ideal hasn't been invented yet imho.

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    I have had boots with both Gore-Tec and Sympatex and worn them until they were literally falling apart and they remained waterproof. I have also got a pair of boots with Gore-Tec lining that have never been waterproof, I think a lot depends on the manufacturing process.

    Whatever the fabric that Fortis/Country Covers/Arktis use is brilliant but I'm not sure what it is. Same for Lowe Alpine's 'own brand' fabric.

    The HM Queen and Sons issue MTP breathable stuff is great too especially when used as an unlinked shell. I have the POL sallopettes which are outstanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glyn 1 View Post

    Whatever the fabric that Fortis/Country Covers/Arktis use is brilliant but.....
    Polythene to stop the sweat getting out and with a liberal amount of holes pierced in it to let the rain in!! The worst coat I've ever had in my life, worse than even the Ridgeline smock as the Ridgeline is about a hundred and fifty quid cheaper.
    Just successfuly got a refund through trading standards from Fortis/Country Covers after 26 months of lies and bull sh1*t fronm Oliver, terrible product sold by a terrible company run by terrible poeple, a disgrace the notion that buying British is buying best.
    Last edited by Dawnrazor; 16-07-2016 at 19:52.

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    Gore tex is only supplied to company's who are willing to resubmit there garments for further testing back at goretex, a true waterproof coat will have sealed joints and waterproof zips, if it has storm flaps etc, at sometime it will let you down. Another thing to remember is you need to keep it clean a build up of dirt will overtime render it useless , also never wash or clean with detergents, only Clearwater products. Hunt tec and stoney creek make a waterproof smock/ jacket that we sell as the only truely waterproof coat,( we don,t sell Swazi .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnrazor View Post
    Polythene to stop the sweat getting out and with a liberal amount of holes pierced in it to let the rain in!! The worst coat I've ever had in my life, worse than even the Ridgeline smock as the Ridgeline is about a hundred and fifty quid cheaper.
    Just successfuly got a refund through trading standards from Fortis/Country Covers after 26 months of lies and bull sh1*t fronm Oliver, terrible product sold by a terrible company run by terrible poeple, a disgrace the notion that buying British is buying best.
    Quite the opposite to my experience in every aspect but we can only speak as we find, I have been wearing their kit professionally for years and in all that time my only possible complaint could be that my oldest smock (8 yrs hard use) is starting to let in water across the shoulders in really heavy rain and one small pocket zip has just gone.

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    Kuiu Yukon !
    keeps me dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant.N View Post
    Kuiu Yukon !
    keeps me dry.
    Absolutely.. Toray Dermizax NX.. Beats gore tex and the rest both in my personal experience and very much on paper.. Also the most breathable waterproof garment I have ever owned.... By a long, long way!

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    im interested to read your comment son country covers , ive had nothing but bad experiance with the , i bought asmock that was wrong sized . sold it and bought a custom mad eone which leaked so badly in a rainstorm that it was dangerous as i was so cold , they denied any problems with it and i found them rude and arrogant

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    Not a membrane but if you're working hard on the hill then Paramo takes some beating.

    The downsides are; it isn't up to crawling through the undergrowth and I find that the material itself is so slippery the stock tends to move around when shouldered.

    It's a shame they aim their products at spotters and photographers rather than shooters, I'm sure they'd be able to come up with some top kit.

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