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    Views on arming police

    Ok
    I wake up to read another young middle eastern refugee had gone to see however many virgins he thinks he's getting .
    Blew himself up outside a restaurant, no dead thankfully but 12 injured , no idea to what extent

    So
    France , now Germany getting brunt of it the last week or so .....
    So any doubt if sneaking a bunch of terrorists in through waves of asylum seekers has been realized

    In the wake of this what do we do ?

    In order to " react" quicker what about arming our police force ?

    Thoughts please ?
    Pros & cons ?

    Could it possibly help react / contain such an incident if & when it happens in the UK ?

    Paul

  2. #2
    Arm your citizens.

  3. #3
    The problem with this in the UK is a cultural/generational thing, it's just something we're not used to and mentally aren't prepared for just like when they introduced 24hr drinking and thought we'd all act like Europeans and have a relaxed cafe culture and drink responsibly. It would take a number of generations for the idea to ever be widely accepted and in all likelyhood never will be.

  4. #4
    quite happy for arming our police or at least have more armed units per police force can't see Mrs may going for that though !!

  5. #5
    A lot of police are already armed anyway.

  6. #6
    Up in the Highlands here the firearms police unit have side arms on them at all times and attend normal police call outs, traffic stops, patrolling on foot etc. I don't have a problem with it but the uproar in local papers about it is ridiculous, half the problem is that guns are portrayed to the public as terrible things by media etc which doesn't help things.

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    Get them all armed. I have zero problem with it. With few exceptions, 'The Public' are idiots as far as I'm concerned
    A Man should be wise, but never too wise. He who does not know his fate in advance is free of care

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    what exactly do you think an armed Policeman can do to stop a suicide bomber?
    assuming the bomber keeps under cover until the explosion? the Gendarmes are armed and that didn't stop the atrocities in France , it may have made the custody costs lower but the deaths had already occurred!
    routinely arm out Police and you will see more people shot and not all of them will be guilty of anything other than being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and you will still be at risk from suicide bombers and spree shooters with automatic weapons.
    "Politicians must be allowed to panic. They need activity. It is their substitute for achievement"
    "'The matter is under consideration' means we have lost the file. 'The matter is under active consideration' means we are trying to find the file."

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    Yes, but the baton or even better the night stick has to be the 1st line of defence, the gun second....A major problem in America is officers are trained to unholster their pistol first....many of the police shootings of unarmed blacks could have been prevented if they used the baton and just wacked them several times....but no one wanted another Rodney King...

    Z
    Last edited by Sidewinder; 25-07-2016 at 08:12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennyc View Post
    what exactly do you think an armed Policeman can do to stop a suicide bomber?
    assuming the bomber keeps under cover until the explosion? the Gendarmes are armed and that didn't stop the atrocities in France , it may have made the custody costs lower but the deaths had already occurred!
    routinely arm out Police and you will see more people shot and not all of them will be guilty of anything other than being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and you will still be at risk from suicide bombers and spree shooters with automatic weapons.
    No it didn't stop the atrocities but did it allow a more rapid response than would be possible over here. Can you picture it , the ARV is attending a domestic 5 miles away so will be there in 20 minutes!! I would welcome all or at least more police being armed.

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