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    Hunt the Hunters

    Good evening Gents ,
    with the recent TV programmes like lady lion hunters and the Cecil the lion Incident I have noticed on social media many people being tracked down and verbally attacked many African hunting associations, outfitters having nasty comments left, a few site members also have had disrespectful comments , behaviour and threats against them .Whilst I never publish images etc to attract attention (So never been targeted apart from the occasional non hunter whom I have to educate)
    I know a lot of site members and our hunting community rely on images ,blogs and the internet for business livelihood and to let other interested parties see what we all have as a common interest in .

    What are your thoughts? have you been a target or been affected ?
    How do you see hunting in years to come ? what can we do apart from reporting abuse ?

    Obviously not posting on f...book and Twit.. is a good start ,but many of our professionals will need this.
    "The most basic right of wild animals is to lead a natural life in a natural environment according to the laws of nature. The destruction of natural habitats by modern man is the biggest threat to this basic animal right.
    The hope is to unite the hunting fraternity, the non-hunting conservation groups, and the animal rightist movement in a common goal towards achieving practical conservation through rational debate..
    Hunters do not merely hunt, they are also nature lovers"
    Why should they be attacked ...........

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    Keep your head below the parapet. I would say if you are in the business and need to advertise, you have to be careful how it's done and perhaps suggest replies to adverts by email or PM. That way, anyone wanting to get publicity for their rants is thwarted.

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    The very reason why you don`t see photos on the SD of Stalkers and their Deer.
    The www is a savage place if your photo gets in the wrong hands.
    Where is hunting going?? ... a complete and total ban on hunting anything and everything .. maybe not in any of our lifetimes but it will happen.
    Then when the country has been flooded with housing estates and the wildlife has nowhere to go but your garden, the railway line or the motorway they`ll then say `F**k .. we got that wrong, shouldn`t have built all that`
    https://www.justgiving.com/John-Slee/
    "He who kills sow with piglets empties the forest of boar" My neighbours dad on new years eve 2011.

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    The biggest problem is that the people who hunt understand how nature works the none hunters do not understand that if you stop hunting/shooting the wildlife actually suffer and decline in numbers. Try telling an anti that an organized shoot will release perhaps 1000 birds and only 33% of those will be shot and the rest go to become wild birds or are prey for foxes stoats, weasels, birds of prey etc and if you stop releasing these birds the general predators will suffer.
    In Scotland the anoraks have come to realize that if you do not control the deer there will be no more forests as all the young trees are being eaten by deer.
    There seems to be little understanding about what is best for the wildlife even if some of it appears to be cruel at times.

    Tony

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyR View Post
    The biggest problem is that the people who hunt understand how nature works the none hunters do not understand that if you stop hunting/shooting the wildlife actually suffer and decline in numbers. Try telling an anti that an organized shoot will release perhaps 1000 birds and only 33% of those will be shot and the rest go to become wild birds or are prey for foxes stoats, weasels, birds of prey etc and if you stop releasing these birds the general predators will suffer.
    In Scotland the anoraks have come to realize that if you do not control the deer there will be no more forests as all the young trees are being eaten by deer.
    There seems to be little understanding about what is best for the wildlife even if some of it appears to be cruel at times.

    Tony
    Spot on Tony, but unfortunately you simply can not educate some of the more hard line antis - Bill Oddie and Brian May to name just a few, and until those "higher profile" people start to see sense then Joe Public isn't going to take much notice.



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    Pedro sorry but I think you are taking the wrong attitude , keeping your head down and hooping it will go away will not save your sport.
    If someone posts on a hunting forum web page , verbally attacking it, do you actually think, people looking for hunting will be put off.
    If talking about hunting and fishing etc is the norm, the anti,s become the problem not the hunter, look at fox hunting, Boxing Day meets, lawn meets at pubs, no one is hiding, grow some and stand up for your sport.

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    Trouble is, there's absolutely no desire on behalf of the antis to find common ground or compromise. To their closed minds, hunting of any description is wrong and cruel and should be banned. And to hell with the consequences to wildlife as a result. That's not their problem though, is it?

    I remember watching Kill It, Cook It, Eat It a while back. A group of folk were taken out and shown some rabbit control and one girl in particular was outraged. When asked how she proposed to control rabbit populations if her demand that shooting was banned, her response was: 'I dunno, let the scientists figure it out'. There's your problem right there. Ignorance, prejudice and stupidity. A dangerous combination
    A Man should be wise, but never too wise. He who does not know his fate in advance is free of care

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    It can be turned in favor of hunting if you handle it well.

    A good example of this was during the primaries in the USA. Liberal reporters were tipped off that the Trump sons and one of the wives were pheasant hunting, so they showed up to "ambush" them. All three were so polite and charming, and talked openly about how hunting helped farmers from Iowa to Africa maintain land for wildlife, that it boosted Trump. The ad hoc interview was not one of those replayed, as hit pieces are meant to be.

    Also in the USA, most states have laws protecting hunters from harassment, and game from harassment. Antis who go into the woods making noise or throwing fireworks will be arrested for endangerment to wildlife and forests. That has put a quick end to it.

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    Wish we had the same support here. It took the ACPO long enough to grant powers to allow the police to force antis to remove their face-coverings. Too often we've seen instances of masked thugs running roughshod over the rights of ordinary people to engage on perfectly legal activities, and until now they've been able to do that very thing practically without restraint. I like to think a good few of them have been quietly ambushed and 'spoken to' by a few large lads behind a barn
    A Man should be wise, but never too wise. He who does not know his fate in advance is free of care

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    Tough gig if it's your business because obviously you need to advertise and now social media is the king of this. U fortunately you just need to take the rough with the smooth. In the UK I guess hunting is alien to most whereas in places like Eastern Europe and USA it's their bread and butter so they are more chilled out.

    Then again it's a very distinct line on most non hunters eyes between shooting a pig and then a caged white lion which is invariably what gets banded about.

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