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    Rifle stocks. The wrong size.

    I am a lanky thin person who just happens to be carrying too much weight . But because my rifle is designed for the ordinary man I have had to put a rubber end pad on and put extra inserts on it to bring it out long enough. I also have had to put a rubber cheek riser from a shotgun and then a material cheek piece on as well. Just to get the rifle to fit correctly. Over all is isn't a good look and the butt pad is too flexible for my liking. I'm using an R8. (Edited it say, no I'm not. I've got an R93. Prat.....)

    having handled the Blaser pro success a few times I tend to go oooo twice. Once because the ergonomics of the thumbhole design are great and feel natural to me. (I don't care if you don't like Blasers, this is about me) and a second time at the price. Much as I like them I cannot spend that amount of money on one. Especially as they are still going to be too short.

    so I'm starting to think I may need to look at getting a newer/different rifle. My problems are compounded by the fact that I'm left handed as well. No I never want to shoot a righ handed rifle again. I was show a Kricko sniper rifle with adjustable cheek piece and when set it was nice. Trigger was way to heavy for me and would still need a butt plate sorting, plus it was the wrong calibre.

    So a standard rifle is out, they just don't fit me correctly.

    I need, a left handed rifle,
    243 probably. Mainly roe, Munties and foxes where I shoot.
    It would need an adjustable cheek piece and adjustable butt pad. This will also allow others to shoot when I bring a guest out with me. I firmly believe that removing all the variables give you more time to focus on aiming and shooting.
    oh and a 2lb trigger weight. I don't want something that weight a ton, so AI platforms are out. I mainly walk so the lighter the better.
    Going off subject I was talking to a custom gunmaker a few years ago when I was considering one and when I explained I wouldn't be shooting out beyond 150 yards he started trying to flog me a 1,000 yard rifle. Doh.
    Thumbhole or pistol would be superb. I find it so comfortable to hold using sticks

    anyway, how have you with the long arms and long necks overcome this problem?

    btw if anyone has a Blaser R8 pro success in lh with a 243 barrel for a grand .................
    Last edited by The Singing Stalker; 05-08-2016 at 15:47.
    I can speak in-depth and with great knowledge about most subjects until some bugger who actually knows what he is speaking about opens his gob .

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    Think your only real option is a custom built stock,costly I know, but you are never going to find an off the peg stock to fit you.

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    there is quite a few options , just one is http://mdttac.com/hs3-chassis-system.html

    obviously not to everyones taste but as you require length and cheek adjustability plus cack handed then I think you'll find more options at the tactical end of the market?
    Right where's those stones , I'll start !

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    If you had a wood / walnut stock you could get a shotgun stocker to alter your own by adding length and raining the comb

    it's not so easy with a synthetic tho

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    I have the same problem with the very long arms & long neck & I simply can't shoot a standard length stock without risk of cutting myself (& I have done this with rifles belonging to Oompa Loompa's). I have a Sako 75 with an extended stock with a Silvers pad fitted, taking the length to about 15 3/4". At some point I'll get the black extender changed for wood & probably extend by a further 1/8". There's a Swarovski scope on the rifle in the attached photo but that's now off & I'm back to the S&B 6x42. The Swaro has an eye relief of 95mm & I really struggled with this. The S&B is only 80mm so allows me to get my cheek on the stock.

    I am fond of wood so I'll stick with that but I did notice that if you look at the Macmillan stocks custom page that you can select the stock length of your choice & also get an adjustable comb raiser built in.

    For guests I'd either just get a second rifle or hang out with full-size people.


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    I had similar problems but it's worth checking your technique to see if that helps. Most of us grew up shooting open sighted rifles, or air rifles at least, with these a good cheek weld is easy to get. When you mount a scope you need to raise the eye and therefore the cheek by 1.5 inches or more. This can turn what was a nice feeling rifle into something unwieldy and unnatural. When scopes were invented stocks should have been re-designed to add the correct amount of material to the comb to give the same natural position as iron sights. The reason this never happened is that removing the bolt would be tricky and passing a cleaning rod through the breech would be impossible as the higher stock would be in the way. So we're all stuck with rifles that don't fit right... Then you get 56mm objective scopes that only make the problem worse.. One of the reasons I only have 50 and 44mm scopes.

    As far as technique goes some people place the butt of the rifle in the pocket of their shoulder but it's better to move it out by a couple of inches, onto the muscle at the top of the arm / front of the shoulder, this allows a little more head tilt and gets you closer to that cheek bone on top of the comb feeling that you get with open sights. I think this muscly area is better at absorbing recoil rather than the bony sinewy pocket.. Give it a try, it may help..

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    grs stock I use on my xbolt 243. Adjustable cheek and butt. more than enough extension id think

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    I think I spoke to you about a stock from SSS, you went and looked at them, I bought one with adjustable cheek and butt, I also am tall, you are more than welcome to have a look at mine, I'm only half an hour from you, cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Singing Stalker View Post
    I am a lanky thin person who just happens to be carrying too much weight . But because my rifle is designed for the ordinary man I have had to put a rubber end pad on and put extra inserts on it to bring it out long enough. I also have had to put a rubber cheek riser from a shotgun and then a material cheek piece on as well. Just to get the rifle to fit correctly. Over all is isn't a good look and the butt pad is too flexible for my liking. I'm using an R8. (Edited it say, no I'm not. I've got an R93. Prat.....)

    having handled the Blaser pro success a few times I tend to go oooo twice. Once because the ergonomics of the thumbhole design are great and feel natural to me. (I don't care if you don't like Blasers, this is about me) and a second time at the price. Much as I like them I cannot spend that amount of money on one. Especially as they are still going to be too short.

    so I'm starting to think I may need to look at getting a newer/different rifle. My problems are compounded by the fact that I'm left handed as well. No I never want to shoot a righ handed rifle again. I was show a Kricko sniper rifle with adjustable cheek piece and when set it was nice. Trigger was way to heavy for me and would still need a butt plate sorting, plus it was the wrong calibre.

    So a standard rifle is out, they just don't fit me correctly.

    I need, a left handed rifle,
    243 probably. Mainly roe, Munties and foxes where I shoot.
    It would need an adjustable cheek piece and adjustable butt pad. This will also allow others to shoot when I bring a guest out with me. I firmly believe that removing all the variables give you more time to focus on aiming and shooting.
    oh and a 2lb trigger weight. I don't want something that weight a ton, so AI platforms are out. I mainly walk so the lighter the better.
    Going off subject I was talking to a custom gunmaker a few years ago when I was considering one and when I explained I wouldn't be shooting out beyond 150 yards he started trying to flog me a 1,000 yard rifle. Doh.
    Thumbhole or pistol would be superb. I find it so comfortable to hold using sticks

    anyway, how have you with the long arms and long necks overcome this problem?

    btw if anyone has a Blaser R8 pro success in lh with a 243 barrel for a grand .................
    big boy contact on here calton moor range ask for Mike he is a lefty and has 30 or 40 on the shelf and a place 'not any ole place' but a place to try them failing that come back to me on a PM and I will tell you what I'm now doing, hope to see you again in the dog house?
    KimH
    Every man is a damn fool for at least five minutes every day; wisdom consists in not exceeding the limit.
    Elbert Hubbard

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