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Thread: I made a mistake & I am glad of it

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    I made a mistake & I am glad of it

    I was load developing for my 6.5x55 in preparation for my DSC 2
    So I prepared loads with 140 SSTs with N160. Reloader 19 & 22. Only a mild load of R19 (45 grains) grouped well. I chronographed them & found that they were too slow at 2500 fps.
    Well that was not going to be any good, surely/ The bullets would just loop like a mortar and the deer run off with a small entry but no exit wound in them??
    Back to the drawing board. Next up, 129 grain SSTs with 52.5 grains of N560 behind them. Grouped well & out the barrel at 3060 fps AND LOTS OF NOISE & RECOIL. Well this is more like it, says I.
    Anyway off to Devon and the rifle was sighted in & zeroed the evening before. It was not until I was actually stalking a Roe buck that I realised to my horror that I had actually grabbed the the ' slow (2500 fps) ammo. Disaster, but it was too late to change now. Anyway I shot 3 Roe bucks. 2 of them dropped like they had been hit by a truck & one ran a little way. The meat damage was minimal & the haematoma on the exit could be covered by a 50 p piece. There was no haematoma around the entry wound.
    One of the bucks was shot high near the spine. If I had used my old 25-06 or the fast 130 grain bullets that had the same ballistic performance as a 270, they would have cut the animal in half & perforated the guts etc. I am totally sold on the slow & heavy method now.

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    Well even your slow loads are turning out 1943ft/lbs energy, so deer legal by a safe margin. I'd certainly not want to be the wrong side of 140grns at 2500fps!
    You can't say muntjac without saying, Mmmmmm.

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    Rod, don't let the "small & fast fascists" get you down. Your loading approximates to the Federal 140gn I used to use, they were damned effective too.

    ft
    Last edited by flytie; 25-06-2010 at 21:03. Reason: Stupidity
    Blindness to suffering is an inherent consequence of natural selection. Nature is neither kind nor cruel but fiercely indifferent.

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    Small & fast. The rifle can do that with 95 gr V max at 3300 fps for foxes but I do not have to eat them!

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    Rodkayak

    The powder load for the 129g bullet seems too high? I don't use n560 but from what you say "out the barrel at 3060 fps AND LOTS OF NOISE & RECOIL" then I reckon you have over done it. 2700-2800 is pretty quick with RL19/N160/H4350.

    Regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodkayak View Post
    Small & fast. The rifle can do that with 95 gr V max at 3300 fps for foxes but I do not have to eat them!
    Rod, it's one of the reasons i like the 6.5, it's so versatile. But when loaded as it was designed for, it does little damage but kills damned effectively, although Brit says he had a bad experience with a 156gn/160gn round nose. But I think any make of bullet occassionally misbehaves.

    ft
    Blindness to suffering is an inherent consequence of natural selection. Nature is neither kind nor cruel but fiercely indifferent.

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    If you tink about it the classic Mannlicher Schoenauer used a 160 grain bullet at around 2400fps and it had an excellent reputation on even the biggest Reds. The 303 British of course although a heavier bullet at 174-180 grains had a velocity of 2440 fps so I am not surprised in the slightest .

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    The problem is not with slow and heavy loads, it's with bureaucrats that have no freaking knowledge of ballistics writing your laws. The 303 with a 180 is seriously mean deer medicine! (Almost as good as our 30-40 Krag!)~Muir

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muir View Post
    (Almost as good as our 30-40 Krag!)~Muir
    There are forums I frequent where you would be e-lynched for that comment
    You can't say muntjac without saying, Mmmmmm.

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    I have but three Krags.... and 25 odd .303's: At least 5 of which are hunting rifles. Think they'd still lynch me??~Muir

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