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Thread: Buying Section 5 bullets from EU by post ????

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    Buying Section 5 bullets from EU by post ????

    Ok people keep saying you can legally buy Section 5 bullets from the EU and they will be posted to your door in normal post quicker and cheaper than from within UK with all the problems that means

    So how exactly does this work as far as i can see you need to be a Section 5 RFD and apply for an import licence and is covered by the EU weapons Directive

    I found this PDF on it

    https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...ition-2016.pdf

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    As far as I'm aware your FAC qualifies as your import licence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by takbok View Post
    As far as I'm aware your FAC qualifies as your import licence.
    read the PDF the RFD is not allowed to use his personnal FAC

    and the only ref to FAC used with no licence is from outside the EU

    Im sure its some where but want it pointed out in the legislation not a bloke in the pub said if you know what i mean

    so starter for 10 from above PDF is section 6 and 7

    Domestic authority for prohibited firearms
    6. The authority allowing possession and acquisition of prohibited firearms is a Home Office section 5certificate.Import licensing for prohibited firearms and ammunition

    7. An import licence is required to import prohibited firearms and ammunition, irrespective of the countryof consignment. An import licence will only be granted where a Home Office Section 5 Authority hasbeen issued.
    so yes my FAC had a section 5 authority to possess S5 bullets so complies with part 6 above

    part 7 says you still need a import licence for any country


    this says your FAC is good for import BUT only from countries NOT in the EU

    Non-commercial imports of firearms, their components and ammunition

    17.An import licence is not required for the personal import from outside the EU of firearms covered on aFirearm Certificate, Shotgun Certificate or a British Visitors Permit (BVP) as long as your domesticauthority is presented to Customs at import.
    Last edited by FGYT; 07-09-2016 at 08:35.

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    It's all clarified here with supporting documentation:

    http://www.thestalkingdirectory.co.u...orting+bullets

    I've had bullets delivered from France. The RFD in France didn't even understand why there could be a problem. "They're just lumps of lead" he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FGYT View Post
    read the PDF the RFD is not allowed to use his personnal FAC

    and the only ref to FAC used with no licence is from outside the EU

    Im sure its some where but want it pointed out in the legislation not a bloke in the pub said if you know what i mean

    so starter for 10 from above PDF is section 6 and 7





    so yes my FAC had a section 5 authority to possess S5 bullets so complies with part 6 above

    part 7 says you still need a import licence for any country


    this says your FAC is good for import BUT only from countries NOT in the EU
    Section 39 of the publication you posted... follow the flowchart and you will find your answer :-)

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    [QUOTE]Transfers of non-prohibited firearms and ammunition to the UK from within the EU
    22. For transfers within the EU, the provisions of the EU Weapons Directive apply. A transfer licence is required from the transferring member state for the transfer to the UK of newly acquired firearms. There is no import licence requirement as long as the transfer licence accompanies the firearm to the UK and you have the domestic authority to possess it. This also applies if you transfer handguns to Northern Ireland and the Isle of Man. A European Firearms Pass and BVP is required for transfers by EU residents from another EU Member State to the UK.[QUOTE]

    Good luck with the transfer license from the transferring member state. Bullets aren't classed as firearms in most EU countries.

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    you can get 2 answers one yes one no depending where you stop

    9 Is it a component part of ammunition? No
    15 Is it prohibited under Section 5 of theFirearms Act? Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by FGYT View Post
    you can get 2 answers one yes one no depending where you stop
    The whole point of a flow chart is you start at the top and work your way down otherwise it would not work... you could apply any answer to any question!

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    The way that I understand it and that has been argued on here many times in the past, put in the simplest of terms while its not legal to post expanding bullets in the U.K. it's not illegal to receive them (provided you have the authority on your FAC to possess) that have been posted to you from outside the U.K.
    It's the calibre of the shooter that counts not the calibre of the rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vipa View Post
    The whole point of a flow chart is you start at the top and work your way down otherwise it would not work... you could apply any answer to any question!
    I think it does need an import licence but the link posted above by pine martin does say the Customs will accept your Authorized FAC as an import licence (meaning they are treating it as Section 5 items not components of ammunition

    http://www.thestalkingdirectory.co.u...orting+bullets

    the page the link in the linked thread to the gov website has however been deleted so the Offical bit you can wave in court has disappeared

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