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    Scam or not??

    Alright folks.

    I'm a bit naive when it comes to ebay and paypal and cancelled my paypal account a while back, as my other old email address was always getting emails about suspicious use even thou its never had a paypal account attached to it. Was always scared to click the links incase some sort of virus thiing even thou it looked legit

    I've been trying to buy a digger for a while now, anyway see 1 on ebay looks tidy and fairly cheap, possibly to cheap if the condition/age is true.
    The lass? selling it has had to movve to NI for work so can't let me see the digger beforehand but says she'll deliver it for free and give me 7 days to look and asses the machine and if i'm not happy she'll take it back at her own expense.
    She claims if going throu ebay/pay pal my money will be insured?
    Is that the case?
    She coulld be genuine enough

    Must admit not at all happy to buy a digger without getting in it first and seeing everything works as it should.
    It sort of seems like a scam to me?

    This is the 3rd machine that i've messaged about that seemed slightly too cheap, the 1st 2 the messages i got back were just random nonsense and didn't really tally with the questions i asked.

    The last message she wanted me to send my paypal account accross, (not likely as i don't have 1)

    Wot is the scam does she just want my paypal account to try and hack it, or is the idea to get the cash throu paypal and then do a runner so paypal can't claim the cash back?

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    If it sounds too good to be true it usually is.

    Check previous feedback AND for what type of thing. Also call eBay and speak to someone about your concerns. One scam is to get you to send the money as a gift offering to then split the saving on the commission the vendor has saved. But, of course, as it is a gift you've then no protection.

    I'd say you've a cousin in NI and could they inspect the machine as they've a friend who 'works in construction' and see what response that gets. Can't see why you can't see the thing beforehand as it's a digger. Not as if it's a used TV or toaster. Post the listing number if you want so others can check out the listing?

    But the runner in one way or another is a risk.
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    Not sure exactly how but sounds a bit fishy to me reasons being
    1) she can't let you see before you buy but can deliver free of charge
    2) will give 7 days & collect for free if you're not happy.
    3) both of the above would suggest she is around

    Why don't you suggest she delivers it and you can view / try it there and then. If happy you could arrange payment you could do that on the spot through pay pal.

    Or even better she delivers you try for the 7 days as she suggested then if happy pay by bank transfer if not she can collect at her convenience

    See what response you get

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    This would make me suspicious as well!

    Dont send her anything, and if you're not happy with the answers the seller is giving and your gut instinct is "scam" then listen to that and walk away. eBay and PayPal dont guarantee your money when you're buying motorised vehicles, as per here.

    I dont know exactly how she could be trying a fast one here, but she could just dump the digger on your lawn for you to "try out", claim its delivered and then demand payment via Paypal. Then you've got the hassle of going back to PayPal and trying to prove that no, you didnt buy it, you were just trying it out but on the face of it you have the digger and she's sent you an invoice.

    If it seems too good to be true it probably is!
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    It is a well known eBay scam , someone very close to me was taken for 3750 a couple of years ago, basically the pay pal link is fake and your money is transferred to their account immediately. My friend realised just too late and tried without success to get the money back , of course the item was never delivered. The police were contacted and my friend was told that this scam has been going on for years on eBay and autotrader always using a woman's name to give you confidence that it is genuine,but apparently it is linked to a Eastern European gang based around West Yorkshire.

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    Put it this way, it's either a scam or a bargain.

    If it's a bargain, you get it slightly cheaper than you otherwise would. If it's a scam you lose all your money. The risk/reward payoff isn't great. Be very careful.

    I've bought several cars from Ebay and got a bargain every time - because I met the buyer at their home, got DVLA, MOT and private history checks, checked the paperwork against all details, checked it over fully and went for a decent test drive.

    I've also sold good cars on Ebay with full descriptions so some people got good deals. But almost none of them made any checks.

    "Trust but verify" is a decent motto to live by with these things

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    Quote Originally Posted by countrryboy View Post
    Alright folks.

    She claims if going throu ebay/pay pal my money will be insured?
    Is that the case?
    She coulld be genuine enough?
    Me thinks I would not touch this with a barge pole. Neither EBay or Paypal would pay you out if this went wrong.

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    I don't use e-bay much but my account is set up to settle the account 14 days after purchase. It seems to me to give a reasonable level of security this way.

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    Definitely a known scam. The exact same "moved to NI" story comes up with other machinery and with landrovers.
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    If you are sending them money, you don't give them your paypal account, you pay into theirs!

    The easily check for scam emails from "paypal" or banks ect is that real ones will always include a piece of personal information in the text that they will know, so if an email is starts with "dear customer, account holder etc" as opposed to "dear Flying Felix" it's definitely fake.

    As for the digger, ask for a photo of the chassis number as you want to do HP and stolen property check on it. If they make up an excuse why they can't deliver, guess what.
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