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    7x57 long or short action?

    I think my Ruger M77 Mk2 in 7x57 is a long action (looking at aftermarket stocks). Is that right please?

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    Well Kevin would say a 7 x 57 is a standard action, don't know about Rugers though.

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    An email to Ruger will confirm if it is or it isn't.

    But...see what Jack says...although most folks called Jack that I know don't know **** this chap might...

    Yet Chick Hawks (who isn't always right in fact many times wrong) says the Mk II exists in "short" and "standard".

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    7x57 is a standard action length, not a short one, so like the .270 or the .30-06, but not like .308 derived cases like the .243 or 7mm08.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine Marten View Post
    7x57 is a standard action length, not a short one, so like the .270 or the .30-06, but not like .308 derived cases like the .243 or 7mm08.
    It's a Long action, which used to be "standard" but is no longer. The .243 - .308 is called a Medium action, or Short. The Ruger M77 is a mauser-type action, so you need Long.

    That's one of the reasons why the 7x57 is moribund. You can get 7 x 64 in the same Long action (not from Ruger) with more zip.... and the same zip is on tap for the 7mm-08 in Medium or Short.

    If the 7x57 had been chambered in LH & RH then more buyers would have considered it ... but at least 1 out of every 6 rifle-shooters now won't even consider it as an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinistral View Post
    It's a Long action, which used to be "standard" but is no longer. The .243 - .308 is called a Medium action, or Short. The Ruger M77 is a mauser-type action, so you need Long.

    That's one of the reasons why the 7x57 is moribund. You can get 7 x 64 in the same Long action (not from Ruger) with more zip.... and the same zip is on tap for the 7mm-08 in Medium or Short.

    If the 7x57 had been chambered in LH & RH then more buyers would have considered it ... but at least 1 out of every 6 rifle-shooters now won't even consider it as an option.
    Ruger did offer the M77 and the M77 MkII in 7x64 in LH and RH, on a 600mm barrel.

    The Ruger 77 Mk1 tang safety rifles were assembled in Belgium, using Delcours barrels, probably due to some tariff quirk.

    The MkII was built in a small batch of 7x64mm right before the Ruger Hawkeye came out.

    Remington also has built the M700 ADL and BDL in 7x64, in small runs of 200 or so.

    I bought a left over Delcours barrel and put it on an old Ruger tang safety donor rifle for one of my projects. You could do the same with a LH tang safety. The barrels are still available, blued and without sights.

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    Thanks folks- sounds like I need a standard/ long action but not a short action. Shame, there's a cheapo new (original) Ruger stock for short action in the Holts sealed bid sale. Was thinking about having a play around with that!

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    Its a long shot, but you might check with a large Winchester dealer, to see if you can get a M70 Featherweight in 7x57mm. They ran off a batch of 200 or so in late 2014, IIRC.

    Also look at a CZ 550 with open sights, or the CZ 550 FS carbine.

    I just recently bought an older, second hand, but looks almost new, CZ ZKK 600 in 7x57 Mauser, with the sturdy open rear sight and hooded, barrel band front sight. I am loving the thing, as I have not had a 7x57 Mauser for about seven or eight years, just a combination gun in 7x57R.

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