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    Male Deer (going back)

    Is it just me or do some folk of shooting literature and stalking videos online shoot trophy quality roe and red deer and blame the deer for beyond its peak (going back) as after the beast is shot they seem to blame this reason for the shot, for there trophy to hang on there mantle piece
    You could tell it's an 'older' animal but nothing much more accurate to my knowledge anyway!

    For one roe bucks could have a poor winter resulting in a poor head doesn't mean it's going back

    red stags in a park I can understand as someone that spends a lot of time with deer (in a park environment) I know my animals and know how good they were the year before to make my own very educated knowledge that the beast is indeed beyond its best.

    but wild animals I just don't get it how some folk can really tell or maybe it's a qualification Im missing!

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    Here is a fallow I shot which I would say was 'going back'.

    Looking at the teeth, the brown dentine was wider than the enamel, teeth were worn and smooth. Infundibulum was also shallow.

    Id be interested to hear members views?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotguntom View Post
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    Here is a fallow I shot which I would say was 'going back'.

    Looking at the teeth, the brown dentine was wider than the enamel, teeth were worn and smooth. Infundibulum was also shallow.

    Id be interested to hear members views?
    Personally I'd disagree looking at the Antler's it's a Young or was a Young up and coming Buck

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    Doesn't look that old

    i am not interested in trophies, never have been
    I have shot royals but without fail they showed signs of being weaker stags than some of the resident 8 or 10 pointers at that time.

    a lot more than antler condition to consider.
    Body shape, condition, behaviour, antler condition is just one aspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalkerboydy View Post
    Personally I'd disagree looking at the Antler's it's a Young or was a Young up and coming Buck
    this man knows his fallow I will assure you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalkerboydy View Post
    Personally I'd disagree looking at the Antler's it's a Young or was a Young up and coming Buck
    Certainly not a young one.

    I'm not an expert on tooth wear but the signs indicated a late middle aged animal.
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    And as seen above that is why aging a deer by its antlers is a fools game.
    Truth is we just don't know.
    Far better to go on body indicators whilst on the hoof, if you want to guestimate age.
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    I'd say he's on his way up rather than going back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SussexFallow View Post
    I'd say he's on his way up rather than going back.
    and i would 100% agree like yourself I've shot one or two in the last 40 odd years

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotguntom View Post
    Certainly not a young one.

    I'm not an expert on tooth wear but the signs indicated a late middle aged animal.
    That's a Sorrel or at best a Sore

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