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  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by JTO View Post
    one is not a replacement for the other. they are complimentary.

  3. #63
    There were some tubes on exmod earlier cheap for someone who know what to do with them

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie View Post
    There were some tubes on exmod earlier cheap for someone who know what to do with them
    EEV?

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  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornady View Post
    one is not a replacement for the other. they are complimentary.
    Why ? Based on the video, just what does the NV offer over the thermal. The video shows how in all demo's, the thermal was better than the NV ! Even the detail was better through the thermal ! NV just seems so yesterday !

  6. #66
    We all know your views on Clive Ward though hornady though don't we! It wouldn't matter if he sold the best gen 3 in the world for less than the price of a pint you would still manage to slag him off for it hence you being removed from other forums.
    Clives WT1-75 3 is a cracking unit! Would I buy one after using one, probably not as I will go back to a drone pro to compliment my XQ50 spotter as I like to confirm my target 110% but that doesn't mean Clive's thermal scope isn't excellent because it is and before you ask, yes I have had pinnacle grade pvs-14s etc but would still go drone.
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  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Lateral View Post
    Why ? Based on the video, just what does the NV offer over the thermal. The video shows how in all demo's, the thermal was better than the NV ! Even the detail was better through the thermal ! NV just seems so yesterday !
    That video is highly misleading. It could not be more from the truth when it comes to how the real world looks through both.

    Look at how bright the light is in the gen 3 which washes out all the contrast in the image. It's practically daylight in comparison to a naturally lit rural scene. Plus the thermal is man sized and not rabbit or fox size. You cannot mistake a man at that distance but you can think a dog is a fox at 100 easily. You can think a cat is a fox easily at even less. A sheep head is also problematic in thermal from distance.

    Add in the fact that's American thermal which trounces the pulsar stuff and euro made cores you get a much better image than pulsar etc.

    The poor magnification ranges of thermal units is the real issue with current thermal devices. Gen 3 doesn't have this problem. It also lacks background details especially in field conditions in cold wind or wet.

    Thermal has its place but its a complimentary technology and not a replacement for gen 3. You can use it on its own but you will miss shots miss opportunities and end up in unsafe situations more often than gen 3. If you have both then you will rarely have to pass on a kill shot.

    Also remember I don't need a video I have both and use both and when I don't have one or the other I feel limited.

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  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by RPA 6MM BR View Post
    We all know your views on Clive Ward though hornady though don't we! It wouldn't matter if he sold the best gen 3 in the world for less than the price of a pint you would still manage to slag him off for it hence you being removed from other forums.
    Clives WT1-75 3 is a cracking unit! Would I buy one after using one, probably not as I will go back to a drone pro to compliment my XQ50 spotter as I like to confirm my target 110% but that doesn't mean Clive's thermal scope isn't excellent because it is and before you ask, yes I have had pinnacle grade pvs-14s etc but would still go drone.
    What are you even talking about? who mentioned clive? we are talking in a pulsar thread. but carry on trying to bait. I was also not removed from any forum. i told them to remove me, its in the thread go look. i dont want to be on any forum where you can pay to manipulate how a product is perceived or be lied to about military testing of said product. Thats all im saying on this.

    Get back to the topic.

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornady View Post
    What are you even talking about? who mentioned clive? we are talking in a pulsar thread. but carry on trying to bait. I was also not removed from any forum. i told them to ban me. its in the thread go look. i dont want to be on any forum where you can pay to manipulate how a product is perceived or be lied to about military testing of said product. Thats all im saying on this.

    Get back to the topic.
    haha if you say so! I believe Clive's thermal was mentioned and you knocked it in this thread. Anyway I have always had good dealings with him so can't be bothered to get into it on here.

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornady View Post
    That video is highly misleading. It could not be more from the truth when it comes to how the real world looks through both.

    Look at how bright the light is in the gen 3 which washes out all the contrast in the image. It's practically daylight in comparison to a naturally lit rural scene. Plus the thermal is man sized and not rabbit or fox size. You cannot mistake a man at that distance but you can think a dog is a fox at 100 easily. You can think a cat is a fox easily at even less. A sheep head is also problematic in thermal from distance.

    Add in the fact that's American thermal which trounces the pulsar stuff and euro made cores you get a much better image than pulsar etc.

    The poor magnification ranges of thermal units is the real issue with current thermal devices. Gen 3 doesn't have this problem. It also lacks background details especially in field conditions in cold wind or wet.

    Thermal has its place but its a complimentary technology and not a replacement for gen 3. You can use it on its own but you will miss shots miss opportunities and end up in unsafe situations more often than gen 3. If you have both then you will rarely have to pass on a kill shot.

    Also remember I don't need a video I have both and use both and when I don't have one or the other I feel limited.

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    They say that the quality of video, is far poorer than what you see through the sight itself, so in reality, the thermal would actually give a clearer, more detailed picture than that video, which was clearly more detaild than the NV !

    We also need to have a reality check, and base things on the average user. So, what you personally need, and use to achieve this, isn't necessarily what the majority need. You're into long range night shooting, I think you've posted somewhere out around 550m, way further than most will shoot. And then we have cost, I think I saw a post where you said your equipment cost 9,000.00 ? considerably more than most, and hardly comparable, with even the most expensive Pulsar thermal !

    Unsafe situations, why ? Anything unsafe, is down to the shooter, not the type of sight, and like any shooting scenario, if you don't know the back stop, you don't take the shot !

    I think the real point, is making sure opinions, and comments are relative, and cost is comparable.

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