# Thread: Who said figures dont lie

1. ## Who said figures dont lie

3 guys on a syndicate shoot see a secondhand clay trap avertised in the local gun shop for £30 so they had a bit of a chinwag and decided it would be a good thing if they bought it between them and get a bit of practice in before the start of the season,

So they all put £10 a piece in cash together and sent the Shoot Captain into the shop to buy the trap.

He handed over the £30 to the guy behind the counter and walked out of the shop with the trap, on his way out he bumped into the shop owner and chatted for quite a while as he new him quite well and then left.

The owner of the shop then enquired with his employee as to how much they had paid for the trap to which he replied £30, The owner of the shop who was a decent guy said take a £5 out the till and go and catch him up and give him a discount.

So the Guy takes out of the till 5 £1 coins runs out of the shop and while doing so slips 2 £1 of the coins into his other pocket(He was a dishonest *******d) and catches up the guy with the trap and tells him the owner wants him to have a discount and hands him the 3 £1 being £3.00 so when he gets back he tells the others what had happened and that he had got the clay trap for £27.

He then gives each of his friends £1 coins back
So each of them had paid £9 for the trap

Now simple arithmatic tells me that 3x£9 =£27 plus the £2 in the dishonest persons pocket which adds up to £29 not £30 so where has the missing £1 gone?
I havent got it either

They were lucky i know seeing a trap for sale at that price I know that

2. You should be in Whitehall!

3. If guys getting refund they got trap for 25+3 - not 30 -3.

Think of it like this-

Trap cost 25 + 3 + 2

Guys get (25+) 3 back = 28, bloke keeps 2.

Each paid about 9.30.

4. cant do they initially paid £10 each then was handed £1 back so they paid £9.00

5. Forget the £30. Shop owner gets £25, assistant gets £2, shooters pay £27 (£9 each)

6. Originally Posted by mallettn
Forget the £30. Shop owner gets £25, assistant gets £2, shooters pay £27 (£9 each)
Your right they do but they parted with £30 initially didnt they and there is still £1 gone missing

7. Wrong. Look at it the other way. Shoppers paid £30 got £3 back so paid £27, shop assistant filches £2 so shop owner has £25 which is what he expected when he gave the £5 back.

8. Originally Posted by mallettn
Wrong. Look at it the other way. Shoppers paid £30 got £3 back so paid £27, shop assistant filches £2 so shop owner has £25 which is what he expected when he gave the £5 back.
They did and that adds up to £29 there is still £1 missing

And yes the owner of the shop got £25 and he did as you say give £5 back but the figures in the first example show that indeed figures lie
Maybe thats how the Countries got in the state its in they must have been selling to many second hand clay traps

9. Stu. that one is as old as the hills, seen it phrased in different ways, but the shopkeeper and assistant pocketing the £2 are red herrings they paid £30 had £1 each returned so paid £9 each 3x9 £27 + £3 returned = £30 shopkeeper and assistant are only there to confuse you and have nothing to do with the original transaction

10. As soon as the £5 was taken back out they had in reality paid about £8.30 each, or perhaps £8+£8+£9, or £7+£8+£10, however you want to divy it up. Not £10 each. The £25 does not divide into three even whole pound figures. Where the £5 happens ot be, in transit maybe makes no difference.

When they each got a pound back it meant they then had paid e.g. £9+£9+£10. or £9.30 each or whatever.

This is a division issue, not an addition/subtraction one.

It's like thinking that taking 17.5% of £100 gives you the amount of VAT in £100, it doesn't work either.

Nice trick though, it flumoxes people.

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