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Thread: Barrell reling for 12bore?

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    Barrell reling for 12bore?

    Hi this is a little of the charts with regards to rifles but here goes,
    my wifes father has a very nice and old hammer action side by side shotgun, he wants to give it to me as it was his fathers and i would like to use it. However he took it to a gun shop a few years ago and asked for a valuation it coms in an oak and leather case velvet lining and all the bits and bobs youd get in the good old days withe the gun including an orginal inspection mirror. back to the story any way my father outlaw took to the gun shop in said case and asked for a valuation upon inspecting it he said the barrels are pitted and shouldnt be fired, which is fair enough he also offered him 250 and said he would have it there and then!. The reason for starting this is i want to start using it, is there any way of relining the barrells? She really is a pretty gun i dont have no name at the mo as it is not in my possesion but will be tomorrow! Whats your thoughts chaps?
    Regrards Will.

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    If the gun is a damascus barrel then It wouldn't be a viable project for relining. Even if it wasn't pitted, but a damascus barreled gun, it shouldn't be shot as the flux used for welding the bands of steel around the mandrel is hygroscopic and eventually -even with the lightest black powder loads- the barrels will unravel on firing.

    If it is not a damascus-barreled gun the pits would have to be severe to discount it from service with light target loads. If you can look down the barrel and see ravaging pits the gunsmith might be correct, if not, I suspect the gunsmith was trying to scare someone into a good deal for himself.

    Relining not really practical in many guns and having a new set of barrels made can be really expensive. It may be time for second-opinion on the old girl from a gunsmith that specializes in doubles. JMHO~Muir

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    Thanks muir,i will post some pictures of the old girl tomorrow once the father in law digs her out, regards
    Will

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    Sorry i have to disagree with Muir on this. the term is sleeving and yes it can be done.there are firms in Birmingham which specialise in this. There are thousands of Damacus barreled shotguns still in sue here in the UK. Lewis Potter of Potter & Walker would be able to advise as would others. There is a old family firm in Birmingham but their name escapes me ans to them this is bread and butter work on twist barrels and steel barrels.

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    Then again there is Nigel Teague, he specialises in relining and does alsorts of things with tubes that you would not believe possible.

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    It really depends on what value you place on the gun, and if you intend keeping it indefinitely. Resleeving will certainly do the job but you will lose the damascus effect but will have a gun that will last many years. Sadly it will be worth not a lot if you wish to sell at any time. Nigel Teague is a bit of a genius, but there was a bit of doubt as to whether he is still tubing barrels.This process will keep the original damascus but you could have problems if ever work was needed to be done removing a dent etc: Emotionally, saving an old gun can seem a good idea. Whether in the real world it is practical is a matter only you can decide.

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    Kev: I know it can be done but I personally I won't sleeve a Damascus gun for field loads unless the barrel has some substantial wall thickness to it. I used to sleeve 10 ga to 12 gauge for field loads but that is a different story entirely. I used to sleeve them for black-powder 45-70 as well! ~Muir

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    try here

    http://www.bozardandco.com/

    Phil is very good. i think you'll probably find that its not economical to repair, within the value of the gun (unless its something very special), but it can be done for sentimental purposes.

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    If you decide to have it done, there`s a bloke in Worcester who is recognised as one of the best if not the best man in the business for resleeving, alot of the Birmingham "gun makers" send an awfull lot of stuff to him.
    I am wracking my brains here trying to think of his name,maybe flytie knows? I will email someone back in UK and see if I can come up with his name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john.d.m View Post
    If you decide to have it done, there`s a bloke in Worcester who is recognised as one of the best if not the best man in the business for resleeving, alot of the Birmingham "gun makers" send an awfull lot of stuff to him.
    I am wracking my brains here trying to think of his name,maybe flytie knows? I will email someone back in UK and see if I can come up with his name.
    This chap perhaps?

    S Entwistle Blackpool 01253 790465

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