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    .222 or .223

    Guys
    Ticket is up for renewal shortly and I want to add either a .222 or .223 to my collection
    Does it actually make any difference to which one I choose (Calibre I mean)
    I also will be homeloading
    Any thoughts
    IE cost of ammo and availability, type of heads performance out in the field as it will be used for long range vermin foxes and the odd deer
    cheers in advance

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    I recently swapped my .243 slot for a .223. I spoke to various people regarding the two, and was told. 222 is quieter however a 223 is easier for buying ammo, however I use home loads. The 223 will out perform a 22-250 (so I have been told) and is deadly on foxes out to 250 yds. I'm using 53gr bullets which are extremely accurate through my rifle. The other thing I was told was the lower the twist the heavier the bullet you can use. IE a 8 twist can handle a heavier bullet than a 12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarethW View Post
    The 223 will out perform a 22-250 (so I have been told)......
    By whom? The dealer selling the 223 from his stock?
    Brian.

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    They are both perfectly good rounds, the 222 is loaded to lower pressure in the factory, a handloaded 222 will get very close to the 223.

    The 22/250 has about 300 FPS over the 223 weight for weight. However the 223 can be easily had in faster twists which allows you the option of heavier bullets (60gr and up) that 1/14 twist 222 or 22/250 won't usually stabilise.
    Brian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claret_Dabbler View Post
    By whom? The dealer selling the 223 from his stock?
    Nope, I brought the .223 privately. It was an independent RFD who knows his stuff when it comes to reloading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarethW View Post
    The 223 will out perform a 22-250 (so I have been told)
    .22-250 ~1700 ftlbs
    .223 ~1200 ftlbs




    222 v 223

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    I have used both (and the .22-250 Rem and .220 Swift) and, on performance, whatever you take that to mean, their is little to chose between the two. If you intend buying new then I would put down .223. Despite what the people who hero worship their FEO's think, it is very straight forward to swap 'Autorisation to aquire' from one calibre to another. If a nice secondhand .222 comes up then buy that. If you want to use cheap 5.56 NATO ammo then the .223 is the obvious choice.

    The .222 Rem is one of those magic calibres that just seems to work which is probably why it has stood the test of time.

    As for any calibre being 'Deadly on foxes out to 250 yards', You've still got to hit them! I know this is stating the obvious but 250 yrds is a long way. (all the wannabe snipers who now wish to tell be that they shoot weasels at 600m every day before breakfast, please form an orderly line!)

    As for the RFD who reckons a .223 will out perform a .22-250, maybe he should do less dealing and more real shooting. I can only imagine that he is talking about 1000 yard target shooting with specialist bullets and barrels. If hes talking about normal field useage then no way.

    JC
    Last edited by JC275; 07-08-2010 at 17:09.

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    hi stone, I honestly don't know about 222's, but I think you'll find the 223 a bit more popular and maybe even cheaper, I've got a tikka lite 223 with a 1 in 12 twist, it was all that was available at the time, what I really wanted was the 1 in 8 as you can use a heavier bullet, the 1 in 12 heaviest recomended weight is 62 gr, personally I go with 55gr max, and usually with 50 or 52gr v-max/a-max for foxing, if you are going to use it in scotland for roe then the slower twist and heavier rounds ie. 70/75gr would probably be more favourable, but I'm sure that the the 222 shooters will tell you otherwise, and as for reloading ( I've just got aload of stuff from the states waiting to be cleared from customs) I don't know if there would be a great difference between 222 or 223 perhaps others on the forum could help there....hope this helps somewhat, callie

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    i had a 223, (2 in fact), loved them but always ended up wishing i was carrying something bigger. i now have a 22-250, which i am more than happy with, just wish it were legal on fallow!

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    Stone...........

    You have a PM

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