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    Holding of the rifle

    I've watched quite a few videos now of big game and dangerous game hunting, and I've noticed the weird way in which the rifle seems to be balanced on the shoulder with not sling, with the carrier holding onto rifle by the barrel.

    It seems awkward and a little dangerous, but somewhat common practice. In one clip they are pushing through thick cover 3 in a row... triggers behind them, catching on all the branches. Safety on I'd still not want to be there.

    Can someone educate me?

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    I'll have a stab...
    You don't want a sling when hunting dangerous game. It's also a pretty heavy rifle, usually a long and very hot day covering a lot of distance. How else would you realistically hold it?
    You certainly don't want the muzzle anywhere near the ground. Pushing through cover, you'd usually find that the barrels aren't pointing at anyone at any stage - I expect it's a false impression given by the camera angles. I'm quite certain that the numbers of people harmed by freak safety catch/trigger events while DG hunting are dwarfed into insignificance by the other sources of risk - dangerous game, infection, travel accidents etc.
    If one would find the relatively minor risk of carrying your rifle like that sufficiently offputting, I can't imagine that one would have gone dangerous game hunting anyway.

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    I'm tempted to say a lot of modernday PH's have read too many PH-C novels.

    K

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klenchblaize View Post
    I'm tempted to say a lot of modernday PH's have read too many PH-C novels.

    K
    apologies, what does PH mean? Not Parker Hale?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by muddy42 View Post
    apologies, what does PH mean? Not Parker Hale?!
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    I think KB and Orion are missing the point here, it's to look damn cool ok!!! Don't knock it, everyone looks awesome with a double carried on their shoulder. It's just how you do it. Simple.
    Opinions are like arseholes....... we all have them, and most of them stink

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    Its called the African carry.

    Slings in the African bush are a big no-no - they just get caught and when you get in the thick of it its the last thing you want.

    Carrying the rifle on your shoulder is in fact very comfortable and you can control the direction of the barrels easily - they should down to the ground and to the side.

    A good double rifle should have intercepting sears and most do, along with a safety that is often bolted as well - it has a second lever that prevents the safety sliding forwards. Such a rifle will not fire unless safety is off and trigger pulled.

    But most of the time only the PH in front will be carrying a loaded rifle. A double can be loaded very quickly and silently when the tracks get very warm. Then the rifle is in hand.

    With a bolt action rifle, most clients rifled will be carried with rounds in the magazine and nothing in the chamber.

    Saying that, many true African hands, who have also been through bush wars etc always carry a fully loaded rifle and treat every rifle as loaded. They don't rely on mechanical safeties, instead safety is in the hands of the hunter and where the barrel is pointing. If you are in thick bush, pushing a wounded animal the danger from being squashed or eaten is a lot lot higher than the supposed danger of a ND, hence rifle is loaded and ready to go. Buffalo, lion and elephant can move very fast if they want to and you will fractions of a second to respond to a determined charge. Unless the animal is wounded though, most charges are mock charges designed to intimidate - a major part of becoming an African PH or guide is learning to read the animals and not get into this sort of situation. In my early 20's I spent quite a few months in the bush surrounded by big game and we weren't allowed rifles - there were some interesting moments, but at no time did you feel that you needed a firearm of any kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deerstalker.308 View Post
    I think KB and Orion are missing the point here, it's to look damn cool ok!!! Don't knock it, everyone looks awesome with a double carried on their shoulder. It's just how you do it. Simple.
    Will have to agree



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    Quote Originally Posted by Heym SR20 View Post
    Will have to agree


    That is NOT Peter Hatherway-Capstick!

    K

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