I’ve just been told by FEO to write home loads onto my FAC so they can see how many I’m using (to be fair, they also said I could keep records of numbers made - which I don’t currently, as I’m not a target shooter and don’t care how many I shoot zeroing).
1) The only time YOU write on your FAC or SGC is when you sign it
I'm late to the thread but just a few tips. Ammunition is, except one important exception, not like making a gun or a component part of a gun. So when ever I have had a rifled barrel blank and chambered it I have, at that moment, had to enter in on my Dealer's Register as "made" and the date that I have made it by cutting a chamber in a barrel blank.
And as an RFD if I have made up bespoke ammunition for a customer I have always had to enter it on my Dealer's Register as "manufactured" and then on to the customer's FAC. I used to do a lot of .455 Webley ammunition and some .38-44.
But you are an FAC holder so I think the below is what might be relevant. The exception is the first paragraph:
The exception with ammunition is if you were using somebody else's reloading equipment, on somebody's else's place of business premises and you were buying the primers, powder and cases from them to assemble under their supervision into ammunition. The law might hold that you had in fact acquired the ammunition as prior to that there is noting of it that you don't own. Typically a "School of Reloading" or where you are reloading your cases but with bullets, powder and primers PURCHASED on the day from the "school".
Sharing equipment at a mate's...who isn't an RFD...where he has a spare space and you buy a few canisters of powder and carton of primers together (or one buys the powder at one place and and you the primers elsewhere) and you each than split the cost and the reloading equipment is bought 50/50 sharing the cost I'd say isn't "acquiring" as there is no selling of the components TO YOU. But just mates sharing costs. The more so if you have a .30-06 and he has a .270 WCF but, of course, both use Large Rifle Primers and Viht 160 that you've split the cost of.
But if he loads it and he hasn't authority for .30-06 ammunition on his own FAC the law, although it isn't usually concerned with inconsequential petty matters, will hold that he has both made it and until you take possession of it is in illegal possession of it. So never tell him that you'll be "Round at 8.00pm...but as it's now 6.00pm he can 'crack on' and load some .30-06 to be waiting for you when you get there"...that's an offence of manufacturing and possessing ih he has no .30-06 authority or (if he has) it is beyond his authorised holding limit.
But i am hoping that you knew that already.
No that's incorrect. I have written on my FAC and SGC many times. Else how else would I have transfered a weapon to myself from my Dealer's Register?
It is also possible in other limited but not infrequent circumstances for either an FAC holder or SGC holder who is not an RFD to write on their own certificate.
It is also possible in other limited but not infrequent circumstances for either an FAC holder or SGC holder who is not an RFD to write on their own certificate.
I bet that your FLD loved having you on their books when you were an RFD.It is also possible in other limited but not infrequent circumstances for either an FAC holder or SGC holder who is not an RFD to write on their own certificate.
ER....not to be rude but you have overlooked the below. The "the only time you write is when you sign it" is no matter how often repeated it may be it is not actually correct. If you said "usually the only time..." then you would be.
Deceased estate. If your elderly Dad, or best mate, who lives on their own, or you live with them, or Etc., Etc., and has said that they are yours when he dies, drops dead who then enters his shot guns on your SGC when you collect them from his house after searching and finding their gun safe keys?
My brother and I, although I still lived with my Father and Mother at the time and my brother didn't, did that with his shot guns when he died in 1987 when I was just twenty-nine years old. Although then, from memory it was still, just, the old white paper SGCs and you just notified transfer with him, the transferor, noted as "deceased".
Ditto with any of his ammunition if you have a rifle of similar calibre. You apply for a s7 to possess his rifles, get a variation on your FAC, but enter his ammunition directly on your FAC.
If they are shot guns you don't need to do that....just write them straight on at "D" of Table 2 as "Dad Smith, xxx Gunn Road, Gunntown, Gunnshire....DECEASED" and details of his SGC. And at "F" you sign YOUR name then below "See D - PERSON IS DECEASED".
I’ve just been told by FEO to write home loads onto my FAC so they can see how many I’m using (to be fair, they also said I could keep records of numbers made - which I don’t currently, as I’m not a target shooter and don’t care how many I shoot zeroing).