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    25.06 or 308

    Hi All

    I already have a .243 that i use for Roe and think its excellent for this type of deer but i also do some Red and Sika stalking and don't find it quite as effective but would like to do a lot more so i am looking for a larger calibre rifle. Can you please advise and compare between the 308 and 25.06 with regards to recoil, sound, trajectory and effectiveness, the rifle i am thinking of getting is either a Sako hunter or Sako finlight and will be fitting a moderator so advice on this would be also appreciated.

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    Deer Stalker

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    I have 25-06 and 308 for deer (amongst other things)


    Both are very effective on all sized animals.

    The 25-06 and 308 in light rifles will be "kicky" - loss if sight picture etc.


    If you use ballistic tipped bullets in either, you will sustain a degree of damage to venision - obviously shot placement is the key - choose you bullets well


    Both are not close quarter engagement calibres unless your necking animals.

    I like both calibres, the 308 is slightly more flexible in terms of bullet weight choice, 120g - 180g - this will be dependnat on your rifles twist rate.


    The 25-06 - for deer your choice is more limited bettween 90 - 120 grainers.


    25, long action

    308 short action.

    Both are fast to cycle the bolt on, ive taken mulitiples with both calibres with no issues (hinds and staggies)


    In reality is personal choice what you buy - so long as the calibres deer legal, I dont think that choice 1 is better than choice 2.

    The deciding factor will in all honesty be the "prettiness of the display gun".....

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    I have a sako finnlight 75 and love it. I believe there are one or two .308 75's still out there, I seem to remember there is a hunter in .308 at Northallerton gun shop.

    I looked at both these calibres when purchasing my own rifle, but due to the strangeness of my local Firearms Manager I ended up neither. The 25-06 is very flat shooting up to about 300yards and has impressive ballistics. It is becoming a popular round.

    But I decided to apply for a .308 (didn't get it though). I did this because it is far more versatile as it throws a much larger range of bullet weights. Just check your loading tables for confirmation:
    25-06 from 75gs to 120gr, .308 from 110gr to 190gr.

    The .308 took over in target shooting from the 30-06 which is the parent case of the 25-06, showing a much greater accuracy at long distance. This is just paper punching though, in the real world of stalking there is little or nothing between the 30-06 and the .308, indeed there is much to be said for the 30-06!

    But back to your question, which would I have? I would buy a .308 every time! The ammunition is easy to source just about anywhere in the world, and it will deal adequately with anything from foxes to wild boar in the uk.

    Now all the small and fast fascists will come out to play and tell you how much flatter the 25-06 is than the .308, how the .308 is slow, has a loopy trajectory etc. etc. But if I wanted to carry one calibre to take the stag of a lifetime, of the calibres given, it would have to be the .308 not the 25-06 for me

    ft
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    Deer Stalker. Good question. Tough choice, I have shot red stags and hinds with both calibres with factory ammunition. There's not a lot in it, but I agree with Flytie's comments. Re-reading Flytie's comments I can confirm that I shot the stag of my lifetime at Suisgill with a .308.
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    Last edited by jcampbellsmith; 22-08-2010 at 08:53. Reason: added Suisgill.

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    i would pick the 308 . with a 110gr v max right up to 180grs it covers every thing .. if you neck shoot a lot of hinds the 25 is ideal .

    if your looking for some punch on the hill get a 270 .

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    25.06 is a perfect 'one rifle' choice but bullet choice wise, it's very close to your 243. I use a 25.06 for pretty much everything.
    So, something that gives you the choice of heavier bullets might be the preffered option? Have you considered a 30.06? Might you ever get the chance at some piggies as they are spreading too!? 308 will be better for that. I have a 25.06 and a 30.06 to cover all options. The 243 and a 308 will do the same though - just not as fast!
    Just a thought.
    MS

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    Keep your 243 and get a 30.06, that will cover you for anything you want to shoot in this country, and on the continent, a 100grain 243 has almost the same trjectory as a 150 grain 30.06 but with greater stopping power.I.M.H.O.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 177landy View Post
    Keep your 243 and get a 30.06, that will cover you for anything you want to shoot in this country, and on the continent, a 100grain 243 has almost the same trjectory as a 150 grain 30.06 but with greater stopping power.I.M.H.O.
    177landy, I admit I am a bear of very little brain and am easy to confuse, but your statement seems a little off to me.

    How can a .243 calibre 100gn projectile at a given velocity deliver greater stopping power than a projectile which weighs 50% more travelling at the same/similar velocity?

    ft

    Edit: I know three people who have gone on the .243 & 30-06 route, two rifles which take you from 55gn to 220gn's, very successfully too.
    Last edited by flytie; 22-08-2010 at 13:32. Reason: editing?!
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    Go with the 308, or 30/06 for that matter.

    The 25/06 is too close in capability to your existing 243, a medium 30cal is a great partner for the 243. The 308 or the 30/06 will take any deer ever born without fuss. They are also good enough for boar etc of you ever get the chance, which the 25/06 really is not.
    Brian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flytie View Post
    But if I wanted to carry one calibre to take the stag of a lifetime, of the calibres given, it would have to be the .308 not the 25-06 for me

    ft
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