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    new rifle

    it's my 30th birthday in december and the wife has very kindly decided to buy me a new rifle, at the moment i shoot 17hmr and .308 and with the .308 being used on foxes i have decided that a dedicated foxing caliber will be the most usefull to me. but this is where i come unstuck, there really is just to much choice and opinion out there and after much deliberation i have nailed my choice down to the following .223 or .22-250. in the past i once owned a .223 but i never got on with the rifle so i let it go which may be leaning me more towards the .22-250 but i dont know if i should give the .223 a second chance and i know that there are other calibers out there and i dont want this thread to decend into my caliber is better than yours but i would like to hear other people's opnion on the calibers and which one i should go with and if any one needs to know, i will be re-loading for it, it will have a mod on, i will be shooting foxes out to a MAX range of 300yrds, i want it as flat as possible and it will be paired up with a s+b 4-12x50

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    .223 all the way, quieter easy to load. Had .22-250 then a .220 Swift all the time my brother had a .223 (used homeloaded 50g Nosler Balistic Tips) .223

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    .223 no competition

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    The .223 is quite capable of killing foxes easily out to 230 yards and beyond.
    Your 22-250 is considered by many as the ultimate varmint calibre. (real flat shooter 300 yards and beyond)
    One must also consider sporting or varmint barrel

    Uncle Buck

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    Quote Originally Posted by sir-lamp-alot View Post
    i will be re-loading for it, it will have a mod on, i will be shooting foxes out to a MAX range of 300yrds, i want it as flat as possible and it will be paired up with a s+b 4-12x50
    With your last comments I think you have answered this for yourself. According to the Hornady manual the closest you will get to the .22-250 with the 223 and the lighter bullets is about 400fps slower. The heavier bullets (55gn) about 500fps slower. I cannot be bothered looking at the charts but it does not take a genius to work out that this will equate to a noticeably flatter trajectory in favour of the .22-250.

    Yes more powder, yes slightly more recoil, yes slightly noisier (if you would notice). All of which are irrelevant if fitted with a moderator. Except the powder of course, a price worth paying imho. Have a look at the ballistic tables yourself and see the difference for very little pay-off.

    I have owned 4 (I think) .22-250's. My mate used a .223 for years.

    .22-250 every time
    Last edited by jamross65; 24-08-2010 at 21:09.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamross65 View Post
    .22-250 every time
    That's the one. 3725FPS with 50gr BT's. 2cm high at 100m, 1cm low at 200m. Basically aim and shoot to over 200m which as far as I can go at night anyway.

    Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you......

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    For me its the .223 Like CD says how far can you shoot safe at night and the .22 250 will burn out your barrel alot quicker than a .223 .I can shoot my .223 out to 200 easy and i normally dont shoot that far ion the lamp.Also if you ever get a chance at deer with it the .223 is great the .22 350 will smash the beast in to jelly.


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    I first shot a 22.250 around 7 years ago and loved it so much that I always said I would get one. The 223 is a great calibre and very capable of doing what you need it to. However if you want something that gives to a real buzz every time you get your hands on it get the 22.250. I reload for mine and getting some great results. Where my max loads are giving me 1 inch high at 100 yards, bang on zero at 200 yards and only a couple of inches low at 250 yards with awesome tight groups. I’m shooting 50grain or 55grain rounds out of a 1:14 twist barrel and is bang on and makes a real mess of Foxes at any range. yes its a bit louder but I have a Pez muzzle can on the end and was amazed at how quiet it actually is. When I first fired it I couldn’t believe how loud it was (louder than a 243) I expected the mod to take some out but didn’t expect it to be as quiet as it actually is now. I was out last night with some low loads shooting bunnies around fields close to a farm yard with no noise impact to the farmer. I love it and I know my mate loves his 223 Tikka...Its horses for courses. Id suggest giving them both a try. If you anywhere near Wrexham Id happily take you out for a few hours to give the cannon a go!!!

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    thanks for the offer stevienicknaks but sadly i am quite some way from you and thank you all for your in-put, im really glad that this hasnt turnt into a mass argument about what caliber is best and i have been able to look at the differnt calibers in a new light, i'm still not 100% taken by either caliber and can still see pro's and cons to them both but i am a little worried about barrel life in the .22-250 as i do put a lot of rounds through my rifle's a year

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    The other up side to a 22/250, if you buy lets say a Sako or Remmie, and you shoot the barrel out, it is much more flexible as a donor for a future semi custom build. Standard bolt head and '08 sized action mean it can be rebarreled into any number of other calibres. You can't do that with a 223...

    Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you......

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