Likewise i returned my Helion XP 38. When testing it, i kept spotting roe deer with my binos which the thermal couldnt see, various settings. No good at stalking ranges.
Likewise i returned my Helion XP 38. When testing it, i kept spotting roe deer with my binos which the thermal couldnt see, various settings. No good at stalking ranges.
My point is that if you want a spotter for JUST spotting then a Helion has a whole load of extras that you will never use and the previous models don’t and concentrate on what you need it for, therefore money down the drain.The xp50 I use pick things up at silly ranges. This morning I found two Sika stags at well over 500 yards, couldn’t tell they were stags at that distance but I knew they were Sika. Was watching a Roe buck the other day at 170 yards and could see it was in velvet due to the heat given off the velvet. Think your xp was faulty
My point is that if you want a spotter for JUST spotting then a Helion has a whole load of extras that you will never use and the previous models don’t and concentrate on what you need it for, therefore money down the drain.
If you are looking for foxes they will always pick up easier with any thermal as they lose heat more than a deer and therefore brighter.
If you compare them in the field set up to their own optimum settings you will see the Helion is no better than quantum, buy a second hand quantum and save your cash.
What is better on the Helion is the contrast and brightness in not inadvertently altered when pocketing the unit to climb gates etc, as it does with the Quantum and its wheel.There's no difference in performance between a Quantum XQ (not HD or XD) and a Helion XQ with the same size lens.
Second hand Quantum XQs are being sold for almost the same price as a discounted new Helion XQ
Whilst I think actually operating a Quantum is easier than a Helion, and most of "toys" on the Helion are of debatable value, the much improved battery and the warranty that would come with one makes a new Helion XQ a better buy.
Cheers
Bruce
There's no difference in performance between a Quantum XQ (not HD or XD) and a Helion XQ with the same size lens.
Second hand Quantum XQs are being sold for almost the same price as a discounted new Helion XQ
Whilst I think actually operating a Quantum is easier than a Helion, and most of "toys" on the Helion are of debatable value, the much improved battery and the warranty that would come with one makes a new Helion XQ a better buy.
Cheers
Bruce
With the utmost respect you have a interest in one thing only selling them......
you can quote all the “tosh” you want in terms of microns, IPX7 etc etc.... the proof is all these extras are all useless to the man who stalks... if you are a photographer then it’s right up your street. However this is a stalking forum and I can only presume you have been given the Pulsar program....and all that tosh.....
I refer you to the youtube comparison on another thread... In terms of changing the lens, the only benefit is to Pulsar!!...£900 for a 50 is another waste of cash. You are quite correct compare before you buy.I stalk, and can assure all that the XP version of the Helion is far supperior to the XQ. Anyone who stalks, is aware that shots are usually taken at a closer range, usually under 100 yds. The extra field-of-view of the Helion XP enables the stalker to easily pick out deer that may be standing amongst folliage. The XP also has interchangeable lenses, which is another benefit. As always, look through a unit before buying, at least then your decision is an informed one, and you only have yourself to blame if the wrong choice is made.
The Helion model Range has a version for all budgets which does the job very well, I’m a Swarovski person so I like a quality image therefore I went for the XP50 and I’m very happy with it, as for all the features being pointless I feel there quite useful such as recording your Shooting buddies shots to watch later etc yes it’s a bit gimmicky but it does work
this thread is as useful as a debate about “why buy a 2 grand variable scope when a £300 fixed mag will do”
I refer you to the youtube comparison on another thread... In terms of changing the lens, the only benefit is to Pulsar!!...£900 for a 50 is another waste of cash. You are quite correct compare before you buy.
However being able to spot a heat source through foliage at a distance and then stalking in is the real benefit of these, and the quantum XD50S out performs the Helion XP38, I have done an exact comparison.
If you cant see a deer under 100 yds without the use of a thermal, may I say you could have saved your money and gone to specsavers...