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    Shotgun slap

    Looking for some wisdom here please.

    I have a Beretta 12g over and under that I rarely use, but with the game season approaching I’ve been thinking about getting it out of the safe.

    Essentially it occasionally gives me a whack on the cheek. Now I have had two fittings – one at West London and one at the Fenns and bar changing the recoil pads to make it a tad shorter, I have been advised that the fit is fine, and I shoot ok with it (60-70s at monthly registered clay shoots) but still after every session I use it I come back with a small lump on my face.

    Shooting gun up compared to game gun down seems to make little difference, leading me to think that my mount is ok.

    So speaking to a few pals about what it could be, I am left rather confused with the differing opinions;

    • Im lifting my head – no idea how to solve that
    • Comb on the gun is just too high
    • Comb on the gun is too low causing it to rise

    I do clays for fun, but will admit that I do lose concentration due to queuing 15 minutes to get on the stand.

    Essentially I bought it as a game gun for life, but after a couple of years of being smacked around by it im waning. I have have someone interested in buying it and so I don’t know whether to sell and start again it or have it totally fitted.

    Any advice gratefully received.

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    I am an occasional shotgun user too. I've had the same issue with some guns in the past and flogged them. I eventually found one that fitted, more by accident than anything else. The one I have now feels just 'right', without any messing about bending the stock. So I doubt your problem is unsolvable.

    I think I tended to lift my head with certain targets only and that's what did the damage. The gun(s) didn't fit, I couldn't see some targets as I would like, I lifted my head slightly and 'bam' a smack on the cheek was the result.

    Like me, you've probably lost confidence in the gun and that's a major issue. Maybe try a few of the guns your mates use and see if you like the 'feel' of them any better? I've ended up buy a make of gun I'd never really seen/used before and its great.

    I'm sure a decent gun fitter could sort things out if you have a gun that's nearly there but if you've coughed up for this twice and it's still not working that's a pain.

    Best of luck!

    hh

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    I remember when I first started clay shooting with my old Baikal. Shooting rabbits and pigeons etc I had never noticed how short it was until I started clay shooting. Every time I went home I had a bruised top lip from my thumb knuckle. I added a huge spacer (about 32mm) to the butt and fixed the problem. When I got my Beretta I also found that to be a little short so replaced the standard 12mm butt pad with a longer 22mm one and it feels perfect for me. I'm 6'3"

    You really need someone who has some experience to stand and watch you shoot from different angles. They should be able to see if you are lifting your head just before the shot or if the fit is not right. Were the fittings you had in the shop or actually shooting?

    Haggis Hunter makes a good point about not seeing some types of target. Is it worse on some than others?
    Last edited by BryanDC; 14-09-2018 at 08:26.

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    Unfortunately all of my pals shoot with Berettas and the cast seems to be the same across the range. Lol - need some new friends.

    Both my fittings where two hour sessions on numerous targets.

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    Whilst it's never easy to diagnose these things over the internet it does sound like you are lifting your head bit, probably not on all targets but enough.

    Sometimes I get a slap if haven't been using a shotgun for a while so I concentrate that bit harder on mount and keeping the stock pressed to my face.

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    At best the stock would need a bend for my money, if they say it fits the ask for you money back lol

    Harry who shoots with me get a nice mark on his cheek from his own gun but not using his brothers.
    They are both very close is size and make of gun but Matts has a 3/16 cast in the stock.

    Tim.243
    A lot of people often refer to the past, but don’t shoot in the present…..


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  7. #7
    Not sure in your case but as it is not happening all the time,I think you may be lifting your head.

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    Like John R says, it sounds a little like you are lifting your head a little on some targets but its really difficult to say with certainty. It may be worth just trying it at one more shoot but think about each stand as you do it. Did I get wacked on that one or not. Maybe then you can see a pattern.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by FISH BOY View Post
    Unfortunately all of my pals shoot with Berettas and the cast seems to be the same across the range. Lol - need some new friends.

    Both my fittings where two hour sessions on numerous targets.
    Aye, you need some new mates!

    hh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim.243 View Post
    At best the stock would need a bend for my money, if they say it fits the ask for you money back lol

    Harry who shoots with me get a nice mark on his cheek from his own gun but not using his brothers.
    They are both very close is size and make of gun but Matts has a 3/16 cast in the stock.

    Tim.243
    I spoke to a gunsmith and he said that it was nie on impossible to change the cast on an O/U.

    I have tried concentrating on not lifting my head but it still seems to happen.

    Sounds like a few have solved this problem by getting a different make of gun with a different cast - any recommendations?

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