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    Deeply disappointed in my cheap jacket.

    At the end of August I bought myself a mil surplus "windproof smock" for just over 20 to give it a try. I don't go through jackets as quickly as I destroy waterproof trousers but I'm always looking for a better mousetrap.

    I washed the smock using the Nikwax "tech wash" and then the wash in waterproofing for cotton and decided to give it a good testing. I'm deeply disappointed because its performance has been great and at the minute it is getting worn more often than jackets costing over 10 times the price. To date I've worn it fishing and working at sheep in the Hebrides for 3 weeks and on maybe 10 occasions while stalking sika in forestry, putting up high seats and so on, here in Ireland.

    Now, the big down side is that it only comes in DPM cammo which is less than ideal and here in Northern Ireland has "paramilitary" overtones with which I'm a bit uncomfortable the other slight down side, which could quickly be resolved with a knife, is that the storm flap has velcro on it which is noisey and grabs the bino strap just when you need it least: the noise made ripping your bino strap off the velcro can be detected by sika deer at over 1,000 yards according to scientists. However if you can ignore this then the design and pockets are great and the openings to the pockets fold over - so nothing can drop out, button closed - so they are silent to open and close and are horizontal - so your worldly goods don't drop down the hill when you open them. Who, exactly, came up with the current "fashion" idea for waterproof jackets that the pockets should be vertical? Clearly not someone who ever depended on the contents of his pockets while balanced on the side of a Scottish hill.

    I have also been surprised by just how waterproof the jacket has been. I didn't expect it to do anything more than turn a light shower but in fact it has had several outtings of over an hour in heavy rain, one in a high seat and one while salmon fishing, and not let any water in. I don't for one minute think that it would be as waterproof as my Musto Highlands and I suspect that after much over the one hour the water is going to start leaking through. However, for most moderate stalking weather it could be considered waterproof though should you lie on it in a ditch then all bets are off.

    So, if you are looking for a jacket for stalking in moderate conditions I would recommend you give the mil surplus windproof smock, plus some wash in waterproofing, a try and see what you think. If nothing else the price is right but I suspect you might get a pleasant surprise and find yourself wearing it more than you imagined.

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    We used to get these issued in Norway, and they were always highly sought after jackets by those who weren't issued them. Worn as part of a layer system they are the dog's nads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 308boy View Post
    A link would be good mate
    Here are a few I found with google, it is a case of take your pick, I think the first link is grade 2 stuff so maybe not as "new" as some other sources:

    http://www.britishmilitarysurplus.co.uk/shopscr92.html

    http://www.surplusandoutdoors.com/sh...ue-284308.html

    http://www.premiersurplus.co.uk/more/on/details/0484

    From what i can understand there is an "SAS" smock which costs a lot more and which is basically the same thing with knitted cuffs, so probably not worth paying much more for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caorach View Post
    Here are a few I found with google, it is a case of take your pick, I think the first link is grade 2 stuff so maybe not as "new" as some other sources:

    http://www.britishmilitarysurplus.co.uk/shopscr92.html

    http://www.surplusandoutdoors.com/sh...ue-284308.html

    http://www.premiersurplus.co.uk/more/on/details/0484

    From what i can understand there is an "SAS" smock which costs a lot more and which is basically the same thing with knitted cuffs, so probably not worth paying much more for.
    If it comes with knitted cuffs its a fake! The only military smock that comes with a cuff is the smock Parachutist.

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    [QUOTE=caorach;148304From what i can understand there is an "SAS" smock which costs a lot more and which is basically the same thing with knitted cuffs, so probably not worth paying much more for.[/QUOTE]

    Caorach, the original SAS smock was made of single layer ventile (very finely woven, best grade Egyptian cotton) and did not have knitted cuffs. I do not know if they are still available. I found they were good showerproof garments, but if you carry a rucksack or sling over your shoulders they would let water in on the pressure points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caorach View Post

    Now, the big down side is that it only comes in DPM cammo which is less than ideal and here in Northern Ireland has "paramilitary" overtones with which I'm a bit uncomfortable.........
    If you want to get away from DPM then some of the German surplus 'Flecktarn' gear is pretty good and about the same price - 20 'unissued' condition.

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GERMAN-ARMY-FL...item35ad828fb0

    I also treated mine to the Nikwax wash-in proofing and it's held up really well.

    They also have a single skin Goretex parka that folds up to nothing and can be slipped over the top if conditions are really bad.

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