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    casting swaging moly?

    i am reading on american forums that they do a thing called swaging bullets? what is this all about?

    I quite fancy casting my own bullets, but i know that they are not very good at high velocity. Can you cast the bullet and then wrap it in copper (swaging?)?

    can you cast a bullet and then moly coat it?

    or shall i just buy them!


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    Norman clarke of rugby used to make 22 cf heads out of 22 rim fired cases years ago, they were 55 grn heads hollow points if i remember correctly they were good on foxes and on the range if you give him a call he may help you

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    Several companies make equipment for swaging bullets including a company here in the U.K. The most common swaged bullets are produced for target shooting using soft lead alloy so not realy suitable for rifle use. The other swaged bullets are when soft lead slugs are introduced into a copper tube then swaged in a swaging die to produce a jacketed bullet.

    The .22 bullets produced by Norman Clarke were probably produced on equipment manufactured by Cor-Bon an american company. Great idea using fired .22LR cases to form bullet jackets but quality of finished bullets varied and the dies got to be expensive. The tendancy these days with swaging is to produce custom bullets aimed at the top end of the market or for an uncommon calibre.

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    I cast bullets in .22 .243 and 6.5, the first two are good the 6.5 is like the holy grail of casting. Cast bullets can be fired at speed, it is not speed that does for them but pressure. Having said that you can drive 243 at 2900 fps which is good. I use the 22 in my Hornet, it is easy to replicate a 22 WRM, a very powerful WRM, but at a fraction of the cost. Cast bullets can be and are very accurate, with the odd exception the bigger calibres are better. The 6.5 is a bit of a sod in that no one can get the bloody things to go at any sort of speed, they do all sorts of crazy things, one of the favourites being to shear off at funny angles. IU have some records of my loads somewhere I'll dig them out. American hunters love them, in 308 and above with one of their favourite sayings being "you can eat right up to the hole". Of course the ballistic requirements imposed by our laws would preclude this. Have a look at this it should answer all your questions.


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    thanks boys---- but look at this

    i had a good old sniff about the internet and found this site

    (the things you do when you are off your feet)

    I would love to have a go at this, but the gear looks SO expensive. maybe when i get my 6 numbers up i will have a go. I particularly like the look of making .243 bullets out of fired.22rf cases.


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    That's the company I was thinking of, got my cor-bon and corbin confused?

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    Guys I have ordered the dies, press etc to make jacketed bullets for 243 and 308 using copper jackets. Hopefulll they will be on the way soon, it been a long time waiting.

    I've also got the dies that make rf case into .243 jackets.

    And I am swaging .38 DEWC.

    Once i get up and running I will share the picure.

    No peince for the wicked.

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    I cast bullets. I shoot them at target and at deer. Noting like taking a large mule deer with a 190 grain 30 cal you made yourself! ~Muir
    Last edited by Muir; 30-04-2010 at 03:16.

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    yeah I'm hanging out to cast for my 243. Which I haven't even got yet... Gonna make cast reduced rabbit loads, but still not sure about HV deer loads, might want higher pressures for that.

    I've found some tables relating bullet hardness to chamber pressure, but does anyone know where gas checks fit in there - what's the max pressure you can drive a GC cast bullet at? A bit annoyed my new hornady book doesn't include pressure listings for its loads, any way to estimate them maybe using another source?

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    Have a look at Corbin's web site. They sell 7 (yes 7) books on swaging.
    I've swaged soft lead bullets for pistol calibres for years - very accurate and cheap. Bear in mind that you can only swage SOFT (ie pure) lead and hence the bullets are limited to 1000fps or so.
    The cast bullets I have made from hard alloys (mixed with antimony tin and some aresenic) can be driven at up to 2400 fps accurately. It is a skill that takes time to develope.

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