Yes cheaper they are but they are made for the newer Zeiss rail and have nothing to do with the scope being discussed in this post.
These scopes were the best available in the 60s and 70s and the mounts used were intended for driven game or boar hunts in Europe where the gun could remove the scope in the blink of an eye and use open sights as they were still wary of the scopes fogging up or getting broken so they were often carried in their rucksack but they would always shoot to point of aim again when refitted. but engineering moves on and Zeiss finally developed a different effective rail system but it is only dimensioned for Zeiss scopes (patented). the Swaro"s etc have a different size rail so you are stuffed if yeu decide to change makes of scope then you must change the mounts also. The old rail was called a prismen schiene and all European scopes used the same dimensions as the standard rail mounting system usually with a 26mm tube.
The lateral adjustment on SEM rails was contained in the upper rear mount and worked similar similar to the Redfield system with contra screws but it all had to be hand fitted to the gun as there was no standardisation of dimensions in the European gun industry in those days as most guns were hand fitted and finished today with CNC it is easy to standardise, so it was then in the 60s all precision gunmakers work.
Answer to your problem is to get a redfield/Leupold normal mount rail screw and glue it to the rifle and get rings for the 700 rifle in 30mm diameter and then get some split bushes turned up by the local machine shop as adaptors to bring the diameter down to 26mm (this will cost). Or get 1 inch (25.4mm) rings and then open them up yourself to 26mm then remove the rail on the scope where the Redfields will be located with careful fine toothed file work and Bob is then related to you.
Martin
Martin,
I don't know about the OP but there is no way I am going to butcher any of my rail maonted scopes int eh way you describe. Now just checked and compared the raisl on:-
4x Hensoldt Duralyt
Zeiss jena ZF6/N
Carl Ziess Dialtal 3x32
The rails differ in width by 0.008"............................ hardly an earth shattering amount
. The body tubes however vary from 26mm to just under 29mm.
Oh my Zeiss Dialtal came in a rather splendid Akah leather case
. I shall need to get the leather strap replaced but that's it for the case.
I would still contact Zeiss as they will probably be able to help if not then your down to reckengle of Apel and Apel DO MAKE MOUNTS TO FIT! They just cost about £300 or so
. The UK importers seem helpful enough if rather expensive as I spoke to them at the newark show.
Hopefully I will be able to find another supplier as in the next year I shall need a set of Apel mounts to mate this 4x32 Zeiss Dialtal to the Model 1903 Mannlicher Schoenaur it should make an excellent combination methinks
.
Oh as for the wonders of CNC's everyone seems to forget the Pattern and gauging system
funny how you can still buy a part for an old BSA rifle and it will fit straight off the bat. Odd that when they didn't have any CNC machines..................................... but they did have skilled workers
it was not only in the gunmakers that this happened either. Monotype a Corporation who made type face making machines shipped them all over the world and a machine some 40 years old could be fitted with a new part recently made at the Monotype's factory at Salfords in Surrey and it would fit straight away. It's called
quality control something that is sadly lacking is a lot of modern factories
. It's also funny how cars parts also fitted off the shelf before the advent of the glorious CNC machines!