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    Parker hale rifles

    Hello,I am new to the directory and to centrefire rifles and i am in the process of putting in a variation for a .243 & probably a .308 because i am planning to do the DSC1 & some stalking later in the year ( time & funds permitting ), I have been looking on line at rifles and parker hale rifles seem to pop up frequently in particular the midland model from 195 upwards,WHY are they so cheap and numerous , How accurate are they,Do they have common faults to look out for and finally can you get spares for them,lee

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    oh you are going to get so much feedback on this if you are thinking of stalking then do you really need .243 and .308? it might be better to combine the money and just get one....... .308
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    hello & thanks for the prompt reply,but wouldnt .308 too much gun for the smaller species of deer and have you any experience of Parker Hale rifles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSF View Post
    hello & thanks for the prompt reply,but wouldnt .308 too much gun for the smaller species of deer and have you any experience of Parker Hale rifles?

    Lee,
    Firstly .308 is not too much gun for even the smallest of our deer species. You can only get dead there is nothing further than dead. Choose the right type of bullet and place it in the right area of the Deer amd your will have meat for the larder and freezer.

    As for experience with Parker-Hales just a little.

    Now the Midland is a later model and correctly it's the Midland 2100, avoid the Gibbs marked and made ones as they were were very spotty on quality control. It would appear that the Midland 2100 model came into production some time after 1977 and was certainly still in production in 1986. I have just acquired a .243 Midland 2100 of 81 vintage. Now the difference witht he Midland 2100 is that is uses an American Springfield 03 bolt rather than a Mauser bolt and P-H intorduced it as a cheaper starter line to it's Models 1000, 1100 and 1200's.

    The Midland was more cheaply finished, the poishing on the barrel was not as well done or struck off to use a gunmaking term, the stock was plainer and fitted with a hard plastic butt plate and grip cap however the rifle still has a Timney type adjustable trigger. If the bore is good and not excessivily worn or damaged then with ammunition it likes it will shoot better than you can hold most likely. I would expect them to hold MOA or there abouts easily and most will do much better.

    As for parts places like Norman Clark of Rugby should be able to help but in all likelyhood your not going to need them that is unless some well meaning soul has buggered something up. Here is the one I just picked up:-


    A previous owner added the fore stock tip and greip cap of wood the csustomised the chequering with some stippling and added the recoil pad.




    This one has been glass bedded also and the barrel free floated .


    You can see the large safety lug which is a feature of the Springfield 03 bolt. The mounts have been changed now as I did not have any spare rings for the Leupolds then discovered that the mounts do not seem to be the correct ones for the receiver. it now has a new set of P-H bases fitted.

    As with any rifle may I suggest you try them for feel and fit. if they feel good and comfortable when you shoulder the rifle you will likely shooter better with it than one which you do not feel comfortable with. I am not sure where abouts in the country you are but if you over the East Coast of Lincs way then perhaps you could see some and try them for fit. I am not selling by the way but it might just help you decide as I have several of the P-H rifle models .

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    Hello brithunter and thanks for prompt reply,the info you supplied is just what i was after,but why are they so cheap and numerous.Now back to the calibre issue,I was considering a .243 because its flat shooting,mild recoil ,cheap to feed & would be capable of taking all but the biggest reds and of course charlie ( in essence a well proven versatile round ),also
    although i have been shooting nearly 20 years i have only been rifle shooting 3 or 4 years and only with rimfire rifles (.22 lr & .17 hmr ) and i thought i would have more chance of getting a variation for a .243 than something bigger ( i.e 30 cal ).And now my final question if you could have 1 rifle in 1 calibre for all 6 species of deer & charlie what would it be,also i live in worksop ,north notts,lee

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSF View Post
    Hello brithunter and thanks for prompt reply,the info you supplied is just what i was after,but why are they so cheap and numerous.Now back to the calibre issue,I was considering a .243 because its flat shooting,mild recoil ,cheap to feed & would be capable of taking all but the biggest reds and of course charlie ( in essence a well proven versatile round ),also
    although i have been shooting nearly 20 years i have only been rifle shooting 3 or 4 years and only with rimfire rifles (.22 lr & .17 hmr ) and i thought i would have more chance of getting a variation for a .243 than something bigger ( i.e 30 cal ).And now my final question if you could have 1 rifle in 1 calibre for all 6 species of deer & charlie what would it be,also i live in worksop ,north notts,lee
    hi lee ,

    if you are looking for the holy grail in rifle calibres it does not exist ( i for one have been on the quest for quite some time !)

    i personally think if you are going down the one rifle does all , i would go for one of 3 calibres , the 6.5x55 , the .270 or 30-06 all will do the job and all of them a plenty enough gun !

    just my fivers worth

    cheer s lee

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSF View Post
    hello & thanks for the prompt reply,but wouldnt .308 too much gun for the smaller species of deer and have you any experience of Parker Hale rifles?
    LSF, no I don't think the .308 is too much rifle for the smaller species of deer, as long as you tailor your load to suit the species. A light fast bullet will produce more meat damage and blood blistering than a big slow one will.

    You might have a job getting your police authority to allow you one as your first deer rifle though, my lot would only allow me 6.5x55 for deer and fox as a first rifle.

    I have bought a Parker-Hale M.81 Classic in .308 recently, it would pass the DSC1 shooting test with PPU 165gn SP's. I am sure I will make it shoot better with my home-loads. But wooden stocked traditional rifles are out of favour (especially in.270) at the moment, everyone wants plastic stocked, free floated, stainless steel barrelled rifles. The Parker-Hale rifles are built on a Mauser 98 action, regarded as one of the strongest and most reliable ever made, most seem to be pressure bedded not free floated and it is possible that your chosen rifle will have been well used. You might be lucky if you spend a bit of time looking round and find a good one, they are out there and even though Brit has cornered the market in them, I managed to find a good one!

    Simon
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    Quote Originally Posted by flytie View Post
    LSF, no I don't think the .308 is too much rifle for the smaller species of deer, as long as you tailor your load to suit the species. A light fast bullet will produce more meat damage and blood blistering than a big slow one will.

    You might have a job getting your police authority to allow you one as your first deer rifle though, my lot would only allow me 6.5x55 for deer and fox as a first rifle.

    I have bought a Parker-Hale M.81 Classic in .308 recently, it would pass the DSC1 shooting test with PPU 165gn SP's. I am sure I will make it shoot better with my home-loads. But wooden stocked traditional rifles are out of favour (especially in.270) at the moment, everyone wants plastic stocked, free floated, stainless steel barrelled rifles. The Parker-Hale rifles are built on a Mauser 98 action, regarded as one of the strongest and most reliable ever made, most seem to be pressure bedded not free floated and it is possible that your chosen rifle will have been well used. You might be lucky if you spend a bit of time looking round and find a good one, they are out there and even though Brit has cornered the market in them, I managed to find a good one!

    Simon
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    simon ,

    thats very nice rifle you have there , and a really smart piece of wood as well !

    have you stripped and re-oiled the stock or is that the original finish ?

    cheers lee

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    Hello Leec6.5 ,Please excuse my inexperience ,I have only a little knowledge of centrefire rifles but in terms of calibre/clout doesnt the .308 fit in the gap between the .270 & the 30.06 and so is a capable contender for the one and only calibre to use ( LISTEN TO ME RATTLING ON,THIS TIME LAST WEEK I HAD SET MY MIND ON A .243, BUT THE MORE PEOPLE I SPEAK TO THE MUDDIER THE WATER BECOMES ) CHEERS,LEE

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    lee ,

    me personally i dont like the .243 (even though ive had 2 in my time) or the .308 , i have friends who rate the 308 and i have friends who hate the 308 , its all about personal preference .

    a good starting point would be the 6,5x55 , bigger than the 243 and smaller than the 308 and will drop any thing your gonna poke it at !

    cheers lee

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