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    Scottish Estates make ‘unprecedented statement’ on wildlife crime

    By Gordon Davidson
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    21 May 2010
    SCOTTISH ESTATES and prominent landowners have issued their strongest ever condemnation of wildlife crime and called for the ‘full weight of the law’ to be brought to bear on anyone who indulges in the illegal poisoning of birds of prey.
    More than 200 estates throughout Scotland have signed an unprecedented letter condemning ‘out of hand’ instances of illegal poisoning of protected species.
    The landowners and estates set out their position in a letter to the Scottish Government Minister for Environment, Roseanna Cunningham.
    The letter stated: “It is for us a straightforward decision to underline our view of illegal poisoning. Frankly, we condemn it out of hand and it has to stop.
    “The message must go out to the people who indulge in such criminal behaviour that what they do is totally unacceptable to the overwhelming majority who have the true interests of the countryside at heart.
    “We will continue to do everything we can to ensure that message is conveyed across the land management sector. We do not presume guilt nor refer to any particular incident, but the apparent deliberate poisoning of protected species in recent years has left us utterly dismayed.
    “We also support the full weight of the law being brought to bear on those who are involved in illegal poisoning and endorse the efforts of the Partnership for Action against Wildlife Crime, in which our representative organisations are active and enthusiastic participants.”
    The estates said that while wildlife crime had been repeatedly deplored by land management and rural organisations, efforts to eradicate illegal poisoning would be strengthened by individual owners and estates stating their position clearly.
    Every estate contacted signed the letter and other estates are expected to declare their support in the coming weeks.

    The signatories to date are as follows:

    Lord Aberdeen, Haddo Estate, Ellon
    The Earl of Aboyne, Aboyne Estate, Aboyne
    James Adamson, Careston Castle, Brechin
    Ailsa 1983 Trust, Culzean Estate, Maybole
    Ailsa Continuing Trust, Cassillis Estate, Maybole
    David Allingham, Gualin Estate, Lairg
    Paul Anthony, Mid Bellandy Estate, Glenrinnes
    The Duke of Argyll, Argyll Estates
    The Hon Philip Astor, Tillypronie Estate, Aberdeenshire
    Alan Bailey, Spital Tower, nr Denholm
    Alex Baillie, Dochfour Estate, Inverness
    Lord Balneil, Balcarres Estate, Fife
    Andrew Barbour, Bonskeid Estate, Pitlochry
    N R D Barlow, The Park, Earlston
    Dick Bartlett, Grouse moor operator in Grampian/Highlands
    Victor Beamish, Moy Estate
    Patrick Benson, Old Parr House, Minto, Denholm
    J Billett, Kintradwell Estate, by Brora
    Simon Blackett, Invercauld Estates, Braemar
    Blackhills Estate, Elgin
    Nick Boileau, Hope Estate, Lairg
    Luke Borwick, Blair Estate, Dalry
    Ewen Brodie, Lethen Estate, Nairn
    Andrew Brough, Bowhill Estate, Selkirk
    Michael Bruce, Glen Tanar Estate, Aboyne
    The Duke of Buccleuch, Buccleuch Estates
    Robin Buchanan, Dalcross Estate, Croy
    James Burnett, Leys Estate, Kincardineshire
    Andrew Buxton, Drumcluan, Kincraig
    Morag Cadzow, Muirend Farm, Broxburn
    Donald Cameron, Lochiel Estates, Achnacarry
    Pete Campbell, Balblair, Bonar Bridge
    Patrick Campbell Fraser, Borthwickshiels
    Thomas Cattanach, Newton Farm, Garmouth
    Nigel Cayzer, Kinpurnie Estate, Blairgowrie
    Gavin Chapman, Kinloch Estate, St Fergus
    Rod Christie, Cotts Farm, Elgin
    Mary Coltman, Haystoun, Peebles
    David Cranstoun, Corehouse Estate, Lanark
    Ian F and Evelyn Crombie, Over Rankeilour Farms, Cupar
    Angus Crow, Glenlethnot Estate, Angus Glens
    Lord Dalhousie, Dalhousie Estates, Brechin
    Lord Dalmeny, Dalmeny Estates, South Queensferry
    Patrick and Gillian Dalton, Milrighall, by Selkirk
    Capt Ian C De Sales La Terriere, Dunalastair Estate, by Pitlochry
    Peter H J de Vink, Huntly Cot, Temple
    The Hon Mrs Anastasia D Delap, Achadunan Estate, Cairndow
    James Dick, Andersons Northern, agricultural consultants
    R P Douglas Miller, Horseupcleugh, Duns
    Lord Doune, Moray Estates, Berryley
    Sir Archibald Ranulph and Lady Amelia Dunbar, Duffus Estate, Elgin
    James Duncan Millar, Remony Estate, Remony
    Richard Eliott Lockhart, Cleghorn, near Lanark
    Tom Eyre, Burnend Farm, Grange
    Andrew Farquharson, Finzean Estate, Banchory
    Andrew Feilden, Ardverikie Estate, Kinlochlaggan
    James Findlay, Whiterow House, Forres
    Finegand Estate Ltd, Glenshee, Perthshire
    George C Fleming, Grange of Aberbothrie, Alyth
    Sir George I D Forbes-Leith, Fyvie Estate, Turriff
    Hugh and Ann Fraser, Overwells, Jedburgh
    Hugh Fullarton-Smith, European Nature Trust
    David Fyffe, Fetternear, Kamnay
    G.B.B Estates Ltd, Inverasdale Estate, Wester Ross
    James Galbraith, Rawflat, Ancrum
    Jamie Gammell, Alrick, Glenisle
    Gask Estate, Auchterarder
    Stephen Gibbs, Dougarie Estate, Isle of Arran
    Joe Gibbs, Belladrum Estate, Beauly
    J Mark Gibson, Craigengillan Estate, Dalmellington
    Michael Gibson CBE, Edinvale, Dallas
    John Gilmour, Balcormo Mains, Leven
    Nicholas Gilmour, Montrave Estate, Leven
    Robert Gladstone, Capenoch Estate, Penpont
    Charles Gladstone, Fasque and Glendye Estates, Kincardineshire
    Glenmazeran Estate
    Andrew Duncan Gordon, Lude Estate, Blair Atholl
    Sir Alistair Gordon Cumming, Altyre Estate
    Alex and Priscilla Gordon-Duff, Drummuir Castle Estate, Drummuir
    Heather Gow, Strathmore Estate, Altnaharra
    Sir Archibald Grant, Monymusk Estate, Monymusk
    Johnnie and James Grant, Rothiemurchus Estate, Aviemore
    Mr and Mrs James Greenwood, Lairg Estate, Lairg
    John Guthrie, Rosehaugh Estate, Black Isle
    Hugh Halcro-Johnston, Orphir House, Orkney
    The Marquess of Hamilton, Ardchyline and Minto Estates
    Richard Harington, Strathrusdale and Crannich Estate, Easter Ross
    Malcolm Hay, Edinglassie Estate, Glass, Huntly
    Ruaraidh Hilleary, Edinbane Estate
    Peter and Charlotte Hingston, Fairburn Estate, Urray
    David Houldsworth, Dallas Estate, Forres
    Andrew Howard, Little Blervie, Forres
    E C M Humphrey, Dinnet and Kinord Estates, Aboyne
    Charlotte Hunt, Keir Hill, Balfron
    Jamie Ingall, Airds Estate, Mossdale
    Adrian Ivory, Ruthven and Cardean Farms, Wester Cardean
    James R Jeffrey, Halls, Dunbar
    Lord Johnstone, Annandale Estates, St Ann’s
    Lord Joicey, Loch Choire Estate, Ford and Etal Estates
    Lord Kennedy, Morrison Farms
    Tim J Kirkwood, CKD Galbraith
    Alasdair Laing, Logie Estates, Forres
    Murdoch Laing, Scardroy
    Simon W D Laird, East Memus, Forfar
    Kurt Larson, Kingairloch Estate, Kingairloch
    Margaret A Lascelles, Straloch, Enochdhu
    PJ Lewis, Cotfield, Melrose
    Miranda Lindsay, Taymount Estate, Stanley
    The Earl of Lindsay, Lahill, Upper Largo
    Paul Lister, Alladale Wilderness Lodge and Reserve, Ardgay
    James Lithgow, Ormsary Estate, Lochgilphead
    John Lithgow, Inver Estate, Isle of Jura
    Angus Macdonald Lockhart, Lee and Carnwath Estates, Shawfield
    Marquis of Lothian, Lothian Estates, Jedburgh
    David Lowes, Glenfalloch Estate, Ardlui
    Luss Estates Company, Luss Estates, Arnburn
    Peter Macdonald, Waterheads, Eddleston
    Thomas MacDonnell, Glenfeshie Estate, Kincraig
    Rob and Christine Mack, Muirton Mains, Fairburn
    John Mackenzie, Gairloch and Conon Estates, Conon Bridge
    Alex Mackenzie Smith, Newrow Farm, Methven
    Gavin and Suzanne MacKessack-Leitch, Carden, Inchstelly and Rheeves, Moray
    Celia Mackintosh, Moy Estate
    Angus Maclay, Whitelee, St Boswells
    Ewen MacPherson, Attadale Estate, Strathcarron
    Gordon Macpherson, Arinackaig Estate
    Alastair Macphie, Glenbervie Estate, Stonehaven
    Malcolm Macrae, Breckness Estate, Orkney
    Robin Maitland, Strutt and Parker
    The Hon Gerald Maitland-Carew, Thirlestane Castle, Lauder
    Lord Margadale of Islay, Islay Estates Company, Bridgend
    Charles Marsham, Rispond Estate, Durness
    David Matthews, Blackwood Estate, Auldgirth
    Michael Maxwell Stuart, Baitlaws, Biggar
    Doug McAdam, Cuil an Duin, Ballinluig
    Keith McKellar, Hannah Research Institute, Ayr
    Angus McMillan Douglas, nr Forfar
    Andrew Mickel, Mactaggart and Mickel
    Mark Molyneux, Morsgail Estate, Isle of Lewis
    Hector Munro, Foulis Farms, Evanton
    Lord Neidpath, Wemyss and March Estates, Longniddry
    Malcolm Nicol, Ballogie Estate, Aboyne
    Mark Nicolson, Mar Estate, Braemar
    Sir Francis Ogilvy, Winton House, Pencaitland
    Sir Archibald Orr-Ewing, Cardross Estate, Port of Monteith
    Mrs Emma Paterson, Barncroft of Auchlyne, Killin
    Mark Pattinson, Lochcarron Estate, Wester Ross
    James and Margaret Payne, Ardvar Estate, Drumbeg
    The Hon Charles Pearson, Dunecht Estates, Dunecht
    Colonel Timothy Purdon, Coatefield House, Wiltshire
    W B Ramsay, Chesthill Estate, Perthshire
    Dr Sigrid Rausing, Coignafearn Estate, Tomatin
    Lisbet Rausing, Corrour Estate, Fort William
    David and Chrissie Reid, Portmore Estates, Peebles
    Alastair J Riddell, Chesthill Estate, Balintyre
    Patrick Ross Taylor, Littlegill, Biggar
    The Duke of Roxburghe, Roxburghe Estate, Kelso
    James Ruggles-Brise, Ledgowan Estate, Achnasheen
    Andrew Salvesen, Findrack and Tillyfour Estates, Banchory
    Cmdr Thomas Stephen Sampson, Mains of Balgavies
    Alison Sangster, Old Hall, Watten
    Colin Sangster, Old Hall, Watten
    Robert Schiller, Craigdarroch, Moniaive
    Ewen and Jenny Scobie, Rhidorroch Estate, Ullapool
    Alexander Scott, Gelston Castle Estate, Castle Douglas
    William Thomas Scott, Meiklewood, Gargunnock
    Joe Scott-Plummer, Mainhouse, Kelso
    The Earl of Seafield, Seafield and Strathspey Estates
    David Seed, Cothill Farm, Duns
    Christo Shepherd, Pitmillan, Newburgh
    Walter Simpson, Downhill, Glendevon
    Matthew Sinclair, Knocknalling, St John’s Town of Dalry
    Donna Skelly, Grigor and Young
    The Hon Philip Smith, Coulin Estate, Kinlochewe
    Robert Smyly, Sunderland Hall, Galashiels
    Frank Spencer-Nairn, Culligran Estate, Struy
    Michael Spencer-Nairn, Struy Estate
    Edward Sprot, Garnkirk Estate, Stepps
    Lord Stair, Stair Estates, nr Stranraer
    John Steel, Ashentully
    Tony Stevenson, Selkirk
    Mike Stevenson, Fawside, nr Gordon
    J C Stewart, Arndean, Dollar
    Lord Stormont, Mansfield Estates
    Malcolm Strang Steel, Greenhead of Arnot, Leslie
    Michael Strang Steel, Philiphaugh Estate, Selkirk
    Viscount Strathallan, Stobhall Estate, Stobhall, Perth
    David Sumsion, Ardkinglas Estate, Cairndow
    Sutherland Estates, Golspie
    Alistair Swanson, Tister, Halkirk
    Susie Swift, Kintail House, Inverness
    Chris Swift, South Clunes Farm, Inverness
    Adrian Sykes, Kinloch Estate, Tongue
    Mr H D Teacher, Fealar Estate
    Mark Tennant, Innes Estate, Elgin
    Major Alexander Trotter, Mortonhall and Charterhall
    H P Trotter, T/A Printonan Farm
    J H Trotter, Mordington Farm, Berwick upon Tweed
    Sarah Troughton, Atholl Estates, Blair Atholl
    Daye Tucker, Carbeth Home Farm, Balfron
    Jonathan Michael Turnbull, Strone Estate, Cairndow
    William Pratesi Urquhart, Craigston Estate, Turriff
    James Vestey, Ormiston, Hawick
    James Vestey, Benmore Estate, Lairg
    George Vestey, Inchnadamp Estate
    Sir Andrew Walker, Glenmuick Estate, Ballater
    Dee Ward, Rottal Estate, Angus Glens
    Johnny Watson, Lewinshope
    Welbeck Estates, Berriedale, Sutherland
    The Duke of Westminster, Reay Forest Estate, Achfary
    Jamie Williamson, Alvie Estate, Kincraig
    Simon Winton, Dalmunzie Estate, Glenshee
    Charles Wolrige-Gordon, Esslemont Estate, Ellon
    Wylye Valley Farming Limited, Aberarder Estate, Strathnairn


    RSPB Scotland welcomed the letter – although it wrongly attributed it to the Scottish Rural Property and Business Association and the Scottish Estates Business Group, rather than ithe individual estate owners.
    “We are glad that a lead has been taken in the light of recent reported crimes and others that are still under investigation,” said an RSPB spokesman.
    “The use of illegal poisons and traps must not be tolerated and has no place in a modern Scotland. Estate owners and managers now need to take responsibility for getting this message across to their staff, and rooting this problem out once and for all.
    “Killing adult golden eagles, red kites and other scarce species is a very serious crime; more serious than the theft of eggs in terms of its impact at a population level, and the courts must use the sentencing options they have to send an unequivocal

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    I see hypocrisy is still alive and well.
    Last edited by Dan Gliballs; 01-03-2011 at 08:52.
    There is a place on this planet for all of God's creatures, right next to my tatties and gravy!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gliballs View Post
    I see hypocrisy is still alive and well.
    I can't think what you mean Dan?!

    Whilst a cynical person like myself sees this as a joke, one very good thing that may/will come of this is that, if a wildlife crime takes place on one of these estates, the authorities (and everyone else who has an opinion) will come down on them like a tonne of bricks. JC

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    I liked James Marchingtons idea of a "raptor friendly" label for estates and shoots to use as a marketing/PR programme

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    How quickly we forget the Langholme report . Look at the big picture , heather moorland that suports the red grouse is rarer than rain forest and red grouse are only found here , the RSPBs flagship bird , the hen harrier , along with peregrines , golden eagles and sea eagles are all found in other countries . What happened to the langholme keepers and the the harriers when there were no keepers controling fox numbers ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trouble View Post
    How quickly we forget the Langholme report . Look at the big picture , heather moorland that suports the red grouse is rarer than rain forest and red grouse are only found here , the RSPBs flagship bird , the hen harrier , along with peregrines , golden eagles and sea eagles are all found in other countries . What happened to the langholme keepers and the the harriers when there were no keepers controling fox numbers ?
    Pub quiz question: What was the single biggest factor in the loss of heather moorland in the last 100 years? JC

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC275 View Post
    Pub quiz question: What was the single biggest factor in the loss of heather moorland in the last 100 years? JC
    Was it?

    A) Grazing pressure from increased sheep and deer numbers.

    B) Afforestation. including the fanciful and romantic "Caledonian Pine Forest" re-generation scheme.

    C) The creation/expansion of reservoirs for drinking water and hydro-electric power production.

    D) Highways construction/expansion/upgrading

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamus View Post
    Was it?

    A) Grazing pressure from increased sheep and deer numbers.

    B) Afforestation. including the fanciful and romantic "Caledonian Pine Forest" re-generation scheme.

    C) The creation/expansion of reservoirs for drinking water and hydro-electric power production.

    D) Highways construction/expansion/upgrading
    All factors but afforestation was the big one in terms of acreage and I think that it was done long before the 'recreate the lost forest' idea was around.

    In answer to Troubles point about Langholm, the first project was not without its problems, and I don't know enough to comment in detail, but, there are 'keepers on those moors again now and they are working hard to find a solution to the raptor/grouse issues.

    One thing that is certain, in my mind at least, is that the solution is not going to be 'kill the raptors, theres plenty of them elsewhere'.

    Red Grouse and Grey Partridges will only be effectively conserved by shooting interests, that is clear to us, but try to see it from the outside? You have to understand that it is difficult for the general public to support wild bird 'keepering when the quarry species themselves are scarce and every time a 'keeper is caught breaking the law it sets us back years.

    I'm afraid the days when we could lable everyone who didn't agree with shooting as an anti/bunny hugger/nutter are long gone. We simply cannot say 'huh, what do they know, we know best'. We are the minority and, like it or not, minorities suffer and rarely win in the long term; thats a fact of life.

    JC

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    Wonder if that Marchington chap has anything to do with quarrying?
    (The Unspeakable In Pursuit Of The Uneatable.) " If I can help, I will help!." Former S.A.C.S. member!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC275 View Post
    .
    You have to understand that it is difficult for the general public to support wild bird 'keepering when the quarry species themselves are scarce and every time a 'keeper is caught breaking the law it sets us back years.

    JC
    Absolutely... Poor old Joe public thinks what they are herded into thinking, even the shepherds don't really think for themselves. They only think they do

    Meanwhile, the strokes of politicians' and planners' pens do infinitely more harm to wildlife than any miscreant "keeper", with no penalty at all.

    It's all a bit sad really IMHO.

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